Michael Jackson’s Children Are His
July 4, 2010I really didn’t want to have to do this but… I hate reading so many lies spread in so many places about Michael Jackson and especially about these children.
Things you need to consider when discussing these children’s paternity.
Prince Jackson has vitiligo
This under arm mark appeared as early as April (attending Paris’ birthday):
Specialists have confirmed this is vitiligo and not any other skin disorders
Dr Brian Bonanni, 28th June 2010
New York dermatologist Brian Bonanni studied several photographsClick the image to open in full size. of Prince Michael for INSIDE EDITION and said, “It’s pretty clear that this is probably vitiligo,” said Bonanni.
Dr. Raymond Boissy, President of National Vitiligo Association, 1st July 2010
“That looks like vitiligo,” said Dr. Raymond Boissy, professor of Dermatology at the University of Cincinnati College of Medicine and president of the National Vitiligo Foundation after seeing the vacation photos.
Though he said he cannot provide a diagnosis without examining Prince Michael directly, Boissy said “there are very few other dermatology issues that would render that spot so white.”
In many cases, the appearance of de-pigmented lesions alone, especially in regions like the underarm, groin, and elbows, is sufficient evidence to diagnose vitiligo, says Caroline Le Poole, an associate professor of pathology at Loyola University who studies vitiligo.
People close to Prince have confirmed this is vitiligo
Rabbi Boteach on Howard Stern, 6th April 2001
Howard: “Did he father those kids?”
Rabbi: “Of course. Prince looks like his father. He has Michael’s eyes, the same blotches on his skin.”
Karen Faye on her facebook, November 2009
Hi, I want to know if Prince has vitiligo too? And Karen, have you talked to Elizabeth Taylor recently? How is she coping? And how is her health?
Karen Faye Kissinger: I spoke with her at Michael’s funeral…we both started crying.
Karen Faye Kissinger: yes. Prince has vitiligo
LaToya Jackson, Telegraph, 17 Nov 2009
Prince’s mother, dermatology nurse Debbie Rowe, became close to Jackson while treating him for vitiligo, and the pair married in 1996.
“Vitiligo is on my father’s side and Prince has it, too – on his arms and chest,” the singer’s sister La Toya Jackson said in an interview with new! magazine.
And nope, it’s not a birthmark:
According to research, “Between 30-40% of patients with vitiligo have a positive family history suggesting genetic causation.” (source)
Vitiligo normally affects 1-2% of the population and people with autoimmune disorders cannot donate sperm, so how did he happen to have such a coincidental disease?
People who have said these children are Michael’s:
Jackson family attorney Brian Oxman, Nancy Grace, September 6 2006
GRACE: To Brian Oxman, Jackson family attorney. We’re throwing around the theory that she doesn’t really want these children. Let`s just get right down to it. Are they his biological children? Are these two kids, two out of three he had with Debbie Rowe — are they his biological children?
OXMAN: Yes, they are, Nancy. They are his biological children.
OXMAN: From everything that I can see and from what everyone in this family has told me, they are his children.
Tito Jackon, The Mirror, 16 July 2009
Tito Jackson insisted yesterday there is one simple test that proves his brother Michael is truly the biological father of his children.
All the doubters have to do to see the likeness is look into their eyes – especially those of Jackson’s youngest Blanket.
Tito said: “They are all his children. Blanket is Michael’s, I can tell. Those eyes don’t lie. Them eyes are Michael over again. I see a lot of Michael in him.”
Tito said it was ridiculous so many people should question Jackson’s parenthood because the children have such light skins – especially when Prince and Paris’s mum Debbie Rowe is white.
He added: “Paris and Prince are Michael’s children. Yes they are. Just because they look white doesn’t mean they are not his.
“I have an uncle who is married to a white girl and they have three kids. Two of them are white and one is black.
“When they go to school people don’t even know they are brother and sister.
“They are all Michael’s children. Prince looks just like my grandfather. There’s no question they are Michael’s. They are 100% his.
“The kids are like three peas in a pod. They remind me of me and my brothers when we were growing up.”
Tito admitted not even he knew the identity of Blanket’s mum. He added: “Nobody knows who his mother is, nobody. That’s the million dollar question. When I find out I’ll call you!”
KING: With all the rumors swirling around, did she ever tell you that Michael wasn’t the father?
FINSILVER: I know that Michael was the father.
KING: Was the father.
FINSILVER: One hundred percent, Michael is the father of those two children. Yes.
It has been said that the only reason Michael Jackson married Debbie Rowe was so that under Californian law his paternity to those children would not be questioned. This is a strange thing to say because Michael only married Debbie once the news of her pregnancy had reached the media – in fact barely a week later. Debbie was around 6 months pregnant when she married him, if he was that worried, why not marry her the second she became pregnant? Why was he willing to risk someone else challenging his paternity?
Following on from that, he never married the mother of Blanket and therefore anyone can legally challenge his paternity. Nobody has.
Matt Fiddes may have tried to throw his hat into the ring but in doing so he only exposed just how easy it is to sell stories about being the possible father of Michael’s children. And again, he has claimed to be Blanket’s possible father, but has failed to legally or biologically challenge the Jacksons or the estate about this.
If this was all planned IVF for Debbie to give birth to another man’s child, why are so many people adament that they had sex together? Arnold Klein (yup), Debbie’s lawyer Iris Finsilver, Brian Oxman, Tonya Watts, Mary Colandro, Kevin Forrest and Debbie Rowe and Michael Jackson. In their divorce agreement Debbie agreed not to discuss his sex life publically; so it seems absurd to believe he was then also asking her to tell these people they’d had sex.
In fact, the news story about her being pregnant broke because she blabbed without her knowledge to a journalist from News of The World. One of the things she said? They’d been having sex to conceive.
At the time it was reported in the Associated Press that Michael had performed a paternity test on Prince before he was born in order to ensure that this would be his child:
The Associated Press , December 22 1996
LONDON – After DNA tests confirmed that he is the father, Michael Jackson signed a multimillion-dollar deal with his pregnant wife, a British newspaper said. Under the headline “Jacko Buys His Baby,”The Daily Mirror reported Friday that Debbie Rowe would be paid $1.25 million when the child is born, and $280,000 a year after that for as long as the couple is together. Citing an unidentified source, the newspaper said Jackson would pay Rowe $2.3 million if..
The Jacksons, like most Black people in America, are mixed. Michael has Native American Indian on both sides of his parents, White on both sides and Chinese on his mother’s part.
The reason he divorced Lisa Marie was because he wanted to have his own children – his own children – and she wasn’t willing to have them. She already had two White children of her own, but this didn’t seem to be enough for him. Lisa Marie’s family were pretty upset at the idea of Lisa having any Black children… so it seems very likely Michael had been trying to impregnate her himself. Why divorce her just to have another man’s child? And why with Soccer Mum Debbie Rowe, as though she’s this perfect White beauty?
There was a widely spread story that Debbie Rowe herself had denied that Michael Jackson is the father of these children. This came from an interview in News of The World she supposedly gave three days after Michael Jackson died where she allegedly called herself a “vessel” and a “thoroughbred.” If that wasn’t enough to clue you in that it was a fake:
Rowe has been quick to try to rebut or silence false reports. The lawsuit states that her attorneys got News of the World to remove a story based on assertions made by White. Earlier this week, Rowe’s attorney demanded a retraction from the New York Post after the paper ran a story claiming she had accepted a payout to drop her custody bid.
Debbie successfully sued the woman who had been selling these false stories for $270,000.
People state that Michael had issues with his racial identity (yes, they seem to be the same people who believe his vitiligo was “induced”) and use Prince’s bleached blonde hair as an example of Michael desiring blonde White children. I wish these people would think rationally for a second. If Michael had been so intent on having blonde White children and had been shopping around for sperm (according to Mark Lester) then why had he not chosen a blonde male sperm donor (such as Mark Lester) to begin with? Why did he go on to not select a blonde sperm donor for Paris and then go on to choose a seemingly even darker haired sperm donor for Blanket?
Thanks to DreamPeaceLove, a quick Polygenics lesson on the alleles involved in skin colouring:
Thats the contiunuum. And that’s only a 3 gene cross, there are estimates there are up to 6 genes involved in skin colour.
If you look at this cross, if Michael is 2 black circles and one white (he had White ancestry) and Debbie is 3 white, look how very likely the kids are for whiteness. It is NOT black + white = brown.
And following from that, these are White children:
These are not White kids:
You can really see the difference when you compare Paris’ skin colouring to her mother’s:
Paris compared to Lionel Richie’s mixed race daughter
And Paris compared to Quincy Jones’ daughter Rashida Jones
Here you can see Paris with her aunts and uncles and you can see that her skin tone blends in with them.
How about compared to some children who really are White? Prince and Paris holding hands with Mark Lester’s daughter, March 2009.
Source, for people who won’t believe these are unedited.
Photos of his children have been photoshopped in the media to appear lighter than they are.
The original photos on the left and then how they appeared in OK! magazine
A recent example, three different media outlets reported this story, with her colouring changing with each one. The original untouched photo is the darker colouring, the one on the right.
More photos of his vitiligo, taken as early as 2008
He still has those same markings in the new photos:
And yes… there is a family resemblance and it’s not with any dermatologists.
Prince’s grandfather, Samuel Jackson
Prince & Mike around the same age
Most MJ fans have noticed something about MJ…
The flipper feet and his very large hands… Prince on the left, Blanket on the right…
Prince has those hands
And even Paris has the feet (especially compared to Grace’s):
Michael’s Invincible cover on the left, a recent photo of Paris on the right:
Michael and his cousin Jaffar
Where does she get her green eyes from?
And her natural hair is curly:
Is there even a question about Blanket’s paternity?
And he tans pretty dark for a white kid, huh?
And the kids are obviously related, so whats the link?
Here are some other biracial well known people. In each case at least one parent identifies as Black or in a couple of cases both parents identify as such
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WOW, I didn’t think you’d do this be of the controversy. This was remarkably a better entry though that any I have sen on it. I really don’t think there’s any way to deny the paternity of those kids anymore, & everyone else denying it (especially the supposed MJ fans themselves) will be eating their words soon enough. So, good job.
especially the supposed MJ fans themselves
I think that’s what upsets me the most. 😦 It’s really been an educational experience learning how many fans believe he had so many issues with his race and who are prepared to believe the media myths over overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
I agree, I can deal with the haters but I’m more so disappointed with the supposed fans who disbelieve MJ on such an important issue. I guess, I just expect better after every lie we’ve learned being perpetuated about him, bec they should know better by now. But prepare for a lot of tough comments here, it’s exhausting I’m telling ya! But I think more & more will be turned though thanks to the new pics & of course his entry!
I thought your comment was gonna be some angry fan 😉
I honestly can’t beileve the behaviour of some fans, I mean, denying this is vitiligo???? After what Mike went through? The moderators over on MaximumJackson for ex. should be ashamed.
I really think some people are pissed off that Michael wasn’t as insecure about his race as people believe. So many things people said MJ was lying about are being proved wrong.
couldn’t have said it better myself.
LOL! You thought I would be an angry comment? Well, you don’t have to feel like you have to reply to every comment, usually when I’m fed up, I use my own visual ig button & just turn it on. But I think you’ll find lot of other MJ fans out there who’ll help you handle these angry posts, so it won’t be too bad! Or you could always take a break & come back when there are 10-30 posts & deal with them all at once! Trust me, it’s less stressful & time consuming that way1 At least I think so!
Well, I have heard tat Maximum Jackson is more of an MJ critics board than it is a fan board, so I guess that wouldn’t be surprising then. I agree about this MJ perception of BDD or insecurity or weakling ish that’s being perpetuated not only by the media but also from within his fanbase. It’s frustrating & tiresome but I sometimes wonder if MJ wanted it that way, to be underestimated, so you don’t see him coming just before you’ve been hit by a smooth criminal!
LOL no, when I saw a comment in my inbox I didn’t see your name, so I was all “here it comes” expecting some “a black man cannot have light skinned babies without afros and this isn’t vitiligo it looks like a fungus infection” ranting and raving craziness. 😉
I definitely agree that he liked being underestimated, but I think it must have killed him that nobody ever believed anything he said. He once said people didn’t like to give him any credit for anything and it’s so true.
My heart still breaks from remembering reading a comment from a fan who had served him as an air steward on a flight, she said he was lovely and spent the time in First Class playing with his kids, signing autographs for fans and all that. But then people started yelling out to him, right in front of his kids, “why are your kids white? Are they your real kids? But then how are they white?” etc etc and she said it really broke her heart to have to watch that. And now those kids have to go through it all. 😦
MaximumJackson… is just the worst example of a fanboard. The mods don’t believe he had lupus, they don’t believe he was a sexual guy, they don’t believe this patch on Prince is vitiligo and instead of letting people discuss it all they shut down the threads under the guise of “this is about his personal life” because they can’t handle people disagreeing with them.
“LOL no, when I saw a comment in my inbox I didn’t see your name, so I was all “here it comes” ”
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^^^Oh no, I got your meaning, it’s all cool. I may have worded it the wrong way though.
“this isn’t vitiligo it looks like a fungus infection” ranting and raving craziness. ”
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^^^Tat fungus infection theory kills me I tell ya, it’s like they go out of their way to be so roundabout illogical, crazy stuff!
“I think it must have killed him that nobody ever believed anything he said. He once said people didn’t like to give him any credit for anything and it’s so true.”
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^^^I agree, I read once where he was discussing his legacy & if he’ll ever be given his due worth? & remembering that just drives me you know? I want the truth to prevail but I also want him to have his pride in tact!
“people started yelling out to him, right in front of his kids, “why are your kids white? Are they your real kids? But then how are they white?” etc etc and she said it really broke her heart to have to watch that. And now those kids have to go through it all. ”
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^^^OMG, that’s horrible! For them to do that to him in front of his kids? You know I think Prince & Paris are aware of this mistreatment of their father & the speculation to a certain extent. IDK, Prince doesn’t seem too insecure about those patches to me. Maybe I’m projecting but you know what? I would wear those Vitiligo patches proud like a badge & a big FU to those who say otherwise. I keep talking to a poster who acts like she’s some kind of insider, I believe she’s well off but really not internet savvy at all, & she keeps saying that these kids know what’s up & up & the time will come when they will put certain people in their place. I sure hope so, they seem very smart to me. It just gets to me how young Blanket is & I’m afraid he wont have those cherished memories of his father like Prince & Paris have you know?
As for Maximum Jackson, I guess I’m reminded why I rarely go there EVER. Other MJ boards are similar in that they don’t like bringing the kids into the discussion but I believe the admin/mods consider those to be his kids biologically & a lot of other things fans should believe in. So I guess the TINIs & Taraborelli are most likely members of Max J in particular huh? But it really doesn’t matter now, the truth is out there & it will only be more apparent as time goes by. I don’t even worry too much about it bec in my mind, those kids cannot be denied for long, it’s a sure deal.
I keep talking to a poster who acts like she’s some kind of insider, I believe she’s well off but really not internet savvy at all, & she keeps saying that these kids know what’s up & up & the time will come when they will put certain people in their place. I sure hope so, they seem very smart to me.
Really? I can believe it. 🙂 I’ve been saying this since his death! The way Paris got up there at the memorial and the way they wanted to accept those Grammys… those babies are going to be something else. They’re not going to be anything like some people want them to be – they’re going to be smart, articulate, beautiful kids who will definitely know what their racial identity is. I think Prince might be wearing his vitiligo with pride, too. Those bb’s are going to defend their father above and beyond, people will not be expecting how much love they have for their father (Chris Rock is gonna not be expecting it for sure).
I don’t even worry too much about it bec in my mind, those kids cannot be denied for long, it’s a sure deal.
Same. 🙂 It’s just ugh – like reading articles discussing Prince’s vitiligo and how they’re STILL dismissive of MJ’s actual vitiligo. It beggers belief. But I’m waiting right here with my Kanye signs. 😉
This is the MOST comprehensive article I’ve seen on the subject. You did an EXCELLENT job here! I wish MJ were here to actually see how all his “so-called lies” are being proven TRUE now. The nasty remarks and rumors really hurt and tortured this wonderful dad to death! These revelations about his innocence about the allegations and about his skin color should make all the haters crawl under a rock. It’s TERRIBLE how they spoke against and continue to talk against MJ. It is RIDICULOUS!
I am one of those fans who just can’t believe that PPB are his biological kids. I love and adore Michael and I love and adore his Kids. No matter what, they are his kids. But the problem is that a black man IS NOT ABLE TO PRODUCE THREE WHITE KIDS. If just one of them would be black…it would be very seldom and strange, but possible, but all three of them being white, is not possible. It means that if I would mix 50% of white color with 50% black color, and that three times in an row and it would turn white JUST WHITE everytime. No matter what you say, there is no chance that this can be possible. If so, then they are designer kids, but never ever produced naturally. Just not possible. And all the stuff you said about his family….come on…nobody of his family has white kids…it’s always Michael who does stuff like that. We all know Michael is the ONE and ONLY, he is special in every way…but if he did father those kids naturally, he is bigger that Jesus…or he is the second Jesus or whatever….It’s not like I dont’t want to believe they are his….it’s just that I know that it is not possible. But since I see Michael in all three of them I think they were designed….and don’t tell Michael had no issues with his blackness…he dyed Prince’s hair blonde….come on…I love Michael, but you guys need do understand that he was a human being…like anybody he had problems and issues with himself…maybe he designed the kids white to hit LMP…just to tell her: See bith you should have done this….And we all know Michael is stubbern and what he wants: HE GETS!!!!
Wake up…please…just because you are fans, doesn’t mean you have to believe all the good and forget all the bad….he was human ( the most beautiful in an out) but still with issues…
It’s all for love
Do you understand how the genetic coding for skin colouring works? Black + white = Brown, Is NOT how it works. Of course none of the other brothers have had “White” kids – none of the other brothers have have children with “white” women! Have you seen 3T? Both their parents are dark skinned and yet they all came out so light… And I’m sorry, these babies are not White.
I can’t believe with all the evidence about these children people go back to their skin colouring to try and state that they believe these children are not his. It’s like listening to people talk about the world being flat.
Polygenics lesson:
Thats the contiunuum. And thats only a 3 gene cross, I’ve heard estimates are up to 6 genes for skin colour.
Also if you look at this cross,
If michael is 2 black circles one white (he had white ancestry) and Debbie is 3 white, look how very likely the kids are for whiteness. It is NOT black + white = brown
and don’t tell Michael had no issues with his blackness…he dyed Prince’s hair blonde…
He did that to protect Prince after he’d received threats.
I realize he was human, please don’t patronize me. I also understand that this is vitiligo and contrary to all your enlightened knowledge of genetics (black and white does not equal brown, please don’t ever say that in public again) – there is no other possible way in which this child has managed to contract vitiligo other than by Michael Jackson being his father.
Thank you for giving me a Polygenics lesson, I was trying to do it without. I am pretty sure you know exactly what I am talking about…if I say white and/or black, doesn’t mean paper white and paper black. But Prince and Paris are Caucasian, please don’t tell me somehting else. So and to Vititligo: Those white patches CAN be vitiligo, but there is no MUST. If so, I have vitiligo, too. This white patch is more of a local pigmentary annoyance. I have it like that too, no one in my family does have vitiligo and I don’t either. A lot, a lot of people have a local pigmentary annoyance, nothing bad, but still not vitiligo. I am not saying Prince doesn’t have it, I am saying that your evidence is absurd. You can not tell by looking at a picture that Prince has vitiligo, it is a very complicated diagnose…a pic is not enough. And agian: A black man IS oF COURSE able to have white children, BUT NOT THREE TIMES IN A ROW. Blanket may not be Caucasian, but he although has nothing of a african american man…and didn’t this educational site say that Blanket’s mother is at least mexican or even african amrican. Go and find a gene’S scientist and try to discuss this topic without letting him know who is behind that topic…please believe me….he will fall of the chair if she/he is going to listen to your evidence that PPB are biologally MJ’s kids. It’s just ridiculous. The truth is neither me or you know will be able to prove whether those kids or not….you are just speculating…and you know that, you are writing just what you want to believe.
And like I said: MICHAEL JACKSON IS THEIR FATHER. No matter what kind of shit we are talking about.
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Sorry, what is the clinical definition of a “pigmentary annoyance”? LOL Do you have them over your fingers, your arms, your neck and under your arm pit? Do they seem to be spreading? 3 doctors have clearly stated this is vitiligo and 3 people who knew him have said it. It actually can be as easy as looking at a photo to diagnose vitiligo.
And didn’t this educational site say that Blanket’s mother is at least mexican or even african amrican.
Do you realize what Mexicans are? They’re not a “race” – they’re a mixture of White, Black, Asian and Indian. So when people say he looks “hispanic” they’re admitting he looks mixed race. At least you acknowledge those children aren’t “White” – now tell me, where did they get their olive skin from? I thought MJ only wanted Aryan children, isn’t that why he was bleaching hair?
Go and find a gene’S scientist and try to discuss this topic without letting him know who is behind that topic…
It’s funny you tell me this when I’ve been talking to one about this very topic online for the last week LOL! She’s the one who’s more angry than I am because people like you keep talking about 50% white and %50 black as if it’s that simple. I can send you some of her comments if you’d like about how alleles work and express themselves.
The fact that you choose to look at this evidence and dismiss it or try and even say that he tried to bio-engineer these children (do you realize how hard that was back in 1996 and how long it would have taken to perform? How illegal that was? And why would he leave the vitiligo gene? Why the big nose gene? Have you ever tried speaking to a genetic scientist about this without them looking at you as if you’re totally insane?) makes you sound like you’re just in denial. These children are his, the vitiligo and everything else overwhelming suggests that they are.
to all who dont believe , there are pics of discoloration’s all the way back when mj was a kid and prince didnt have that patch when he was a babe so do your homework. so sickening . tired of reading and hearing about this. i looked into this for two years and believe me there is all kind of info out there. my mother was like you a non believer and that is what sparked me into proving what i already believed. thing is mke liked the innocent act so he could get the girls. they are attracted to that.
It’s bad enough to be ignorant when information is readily accessible, even worse to spread your illogical, unscientific bullshit. Fan or not, use your brain or buy a clue. Your rambling post could have been condensed to a few mere sentences: I don’t believe Michael Jackson fathered his children because they don’t look black and to me, a black person has a large nose, large lips, nappy hair and dark skin. Using your logic, who fathered Lionel Ritchie and Quincy Jones’ children? I know I am being intentionally mean but I am tired of buffoons spewing their nonsense then justify it with “he was human”. What a condescending crock of shit. I wish the “they couldn’t be his” crowd would name the clinic the ivf took place, show the docs of the “real” father giving up his paternity rights and MJ adopting them because like the post suggests, the “real” father could sue for custody. Also, people need to ask Klein and Lester if MJ asked for sperm, what did you do, go to the bathroom, jag off in a dixie cup? If not, what clinic did the donation take place? Why didn’t either of these knit wits sue for custody? People need to leave his children alone. If MJ wanted white kids, he could have adopted Elvis’ white grandchildren or white kids already born.
I don’t believe Michael Jackson fathered his children because they don’t look black and to me, a black person has a large nose, large lips, nappy hair and dark skin. Using your logic, who fathered Lionel Ritchie and Quincy Jones’ children? I know I am being intentionally mean but I am tired of buffoons spewing their nonsense then justify it with “he was human”. What a condescending crock of shit.
can someone explain how bleaching prince’s hair blond was because he was getting threats?
So people wouldn’t recgonize him as Michael’s.
MJ’s never had kids with blonde hair and blue eyes, it seems he failed on all counts.
Though it’s pretty funny you came here to insist he wanted blond/blue eyed kids, but now have to say that he also bizarrely wanted latino kids. This MJ you’ve created sure is fun.
when they decided to kidnap they would look for a kid with blonde hair . and prince’s hair was dark. that’s the only way to get his pic in OK magazine.
Perhaps if you want to post an article claiming Debbie said things, you should make sure that’s what the article says:
“It was an offer friends said had a built-in appeal to the King of Pop, who told them he wanted children with blond hair and blue eyes; Debbie Rowe fit the bill.”
No friend of MJ’s has ever said this, probably why they only say “friends” and don’t bother naming them, and Debbie has most definitely never said it.
WILHEMINA thank you so much for your response.
as far as altering his appearance to better match the vitiligo, i do understand that. but how do you explain the nose job during thriller? was that still because of vitiligo? or was it something he did just because he wanted to. compared to when he was younger, his nose looked a bit different during off the wall era too. was this part of the vitiligo also? and the cleft added later to his chin was also part of fitting into having vitiligo? I understand his reasons for changing his hair, which was totally up to him. I loved his hair all his life. And i understand his hair wasn’t the same after the burn incident and also his struggles with vitiligo.
also, was lisa ever a child star? i know her father was but i don’t recall her having such a career as a youngster but i guess in a way she cold still be considered a celebrity. debbie rowe wasn’t a childhood star either…in fact, debbie is as regular as they come, but i do get what you are saying about him relating to child stars. as far as young black child stars, true, there weren’t many and even though that is an issue in itself, i wont get into it right now. stephanie mills was somewhat a childhood star (which to this day i wonder if she was just the one lying about the being together or if michael just didn’t get the memo and had no idea that they were dating lol). the girl from facts of life was too (sorry i can’t remember her name)
your explanation for him bleaching his kid’s hair is interesting. i haven’t heard that theory before, of him wanting his kid to look like that boy. i have heard he did like blond though. but i’m going to wait for more answers/speculations on this because i am hearing many theories. thank you for your response. as far as the threat thing, if it was indeed a threat had been sent out to him i am wondering why paris’s hair wasn’t dyed too? ultimately as their parent it was his choice, but i still dont know why people get so offended when sometimes people wonder. not saying it is right, but fact remains that there are some social norms that some people are used to and when something is done differently in that way, how can people not ask or wonder why? i do admit that he was not harming anybody by doing that, but i had a little cousin back in the day who truly loved michael and was confused about these very things of their own idol.
as far as him wanting a kid that had long black hair, so are you implying he chose the mother based on what he wanted his future child to look like? i didn’t really understand you there but thank you for taking the time out to answer me.
i do not believe he was racist at all. that’s not what i’m saying. but i do believe that he had to deal with certain complexities with his race. and as far as the women he liked i do think he had a preference for white women, which is not wrong at all. but i guess i get irritated when fans try to deny it as if it wasn’t a possibility.
i’m sorry if i have upset people with my musings. i repeat that even though i do believe the kids are his i am still confused over certain things but at the end of the day that is the only father they knew so he IS their father irrespective of all the ambiguities that people will always ask about.
nd as far as the women he liked i do think he had a preference for white women, which is not wrong at all.
Sorry, you’re so so so wrong. He definitely didn’t. You’ve been brainwashed.
I can’t believe you can read through these posts and dismiss things like vitiligo just to go back to “but they’re White! he didn’t want to pass on his Blackness!” etc Makes me sad…
He was bullied about his nose growing up so he had it changed during Thriller…. the reason he had more nose jobs after that was because this was also when he first had his Discoid Lupus flare up (1983) and it tampered with the skin healing there. This is according to a doctor who was appointed by Tom Sneddon who went through his medical records – so someone without any kind of favour for Michael.
What does keeping your original nose got to do with Black pride anyway? I think there’s just a handful of White and Black and Asian and Latino people in Hollywood who have their original noses as it is…
just wondering if you met mj or not. cuz otherwise you wouldnt know whether or not he preferred black or white. and i thought he addressed this in his music. ?????
nowhere did i say he didn’t want to pass on his blackness. you made that assumption. my comment with blanket was a response to the explanation someone gave as to what he wanted his child to look like.and how am i brainwashed because of asking certain questions?
not once did i dismiss the fact that micahel had vitiligo. i believe he had it. i am not sure where you got that from.
and wasn’t his nose changed before thriller? his nose in OTW wasn’t the same as a few years prior. i’m not bashing him. and stating that he may have had a preference for dating white women is not wrong. i’m saying it could have been a possibility.
a nose may not have to do with black pride but altering it so that it can fit a different ideal that fits with european features is what some people may wonder about.
If you’re making a case for why these children don’t look “Black” I’d assume it’s because you believe they aren’t his and that they’re White. Hence it sounds as though you don’t believe he wanted to pass his race onto his kids.
Yeah, his first nose job was in 1979. I don’t see the big deal about his nose. White people get their noses made smaller all the time, I don’t think it’s ’cause they want to alter their racial identity
I’m saying dismissing Prince’s vitiligo – if people can overlook that to keep thinking these kids aren’t his… I don’t get it.
GOD BLESS YOU , one day you will get a clue, first off it is nobody’s real business to worry who will sue for paternity and mj sure didnt think he needed anyones approval to bring a kid in this world no matter how he did it. do you have kids , how did they come to be. did you go to a room and collect sperm? see how nosey that is. think about it.
I have to reply. I’m a Flight Attendant for a major carrier. On July 1, 2010, I had Prine Michael, Paris, Blanket, Jaffar and Jermajesty Jackson on my working flight from Los Angeles to Orlando. All sitting in 1st class. Oh yeah with about 4 bodyguards. They were kind, polite, shy kids that didn’t required attention. I got a really good look at Michael’s kids and I have to say they are bi-racial. I think when silly Martin Bashir asked MJ about the race of Blanket’s mom, MJ said she was “black”, I can truly say I believe it. I think Blanket’s biological mom is Persian or Arab. He’s so adorable. Prince Michael and Paris are very light with colr, but not pale white. Also, I almost fainted when I so white blotches/spots on Prince Michael”s left hand. I think he has vililigo. They look bi-racial. Prince Michael really do look like his great-grandfather Samuel.
Hey, thanks for sharing. 🙂 The kids seem adorable.
You’re basing your argument on faulty statistics. If a “black” man can produce a “white” child even once, then it is statistically possible for him to do so three times in a row. It may not be the most likely outcome, but it is possible.
I’m putting “black” and “white” in quotes because these are culturally determined categories, the boundaries of which have shifted over the years. That is to say that skin color/facial characteristics that are considered “white” today may not have been considered “white” 100 years ago. And the boundaries of these racial categories will most likely continue to shift.
Furthermore, “black” and “white” describe phenotypes (what someone looks like), not genotypes (their actual genetic make-up). You can’t completely determine someone’s genetic make-up (or their racial ancestry) just by looking at them. I think people tend to overestimate their ability to guess someone’s racial background based on their appearance. In the US, this seems to be especially true when determining if someone is black. Some people appear to believe that black ancestry is always evident in someone’s skin color or facial structure. But that’s not necessarily true. There was a long history in the US of light-skinned people with black ancestry “passing” as white (in order to gain the considerable advantages of being white in America) simply by not letting people know that they came from black families (this was often achieved by cutting ties with their birth families).
I think this history of “passing” and the prejudice against (and, therefore, low incidence of) interracial marriage has skewed many Americans’ understanding of what the children of black people can look like. I think this will gradually change as interracial marriage and (openly) bi-racial children become more common.
I’m talking about the US here because I’m an American. I wonder how the history of the place you’re from has affected your understanding of white/black. I’m also curious about why the idea that Prince, Paris, and Blanket are all Michael Jackson’s biological children upsets you so much.
My post above is a reply to Ina’s original comment from July 5th.
I agree because if they had any black in them you could tell through their hair especially….come on…Michael had an Afro…these kids have bone straight hair. They might be his kids but not biologically…you can’t escape being black. sorry
Oh right, so I guess that means Paris is 100% his then, seeing as she has curly frizzy natural hair!
And I don’t know who Rashida Jones or Jermajesty or Tiger Wood’s kids could belong to, what with that straight hair going on. Hmm. I guess everyone is out adopting their babies with vitiligo, I wonder when it’ll develop in the Woods’ babies.
you can’t possibly ocmpare Tiger Woods kids to Michael’s. Tiger Woods isn’t 100% Black. I know someone will come here and argue that Michael isn’t, but someone needs to explain why, if he came from the same Katherine and Joseph that his siblings came from, why do his siblings’ kids, who most had non-black wives, look more biracial than Michael’s?
How does one also explain all the statues of white children, all the drawings that were of white children (the only one of black, being the one of himself) how can one explain those, if we are not to wonder if he was interested in the Western ‘ideal’ look?
I love Michael but you can’t just blindly keep on defending him. Maybe they are his, but he may have done some genetic engineering of some sort. It just seemed like he didn’t want black children. Prince having blond hair says a lot too.
I dont understand why people keep denying it. It’s clear as day.
He didn’t want black children/a black wife, for whatever reason.
you can’t possibly ocmpare Tiger Woods kids to Michael’s. Tiger Woods isn’t 100% Black.
You asked why it was that he could have children with hair like that, I pointed out that Tiger Woods has biracial children with straight hair, so does Diana Ross, so does Michael’s very own brother Jermaine, so does Michael’s cousins, Levon, Anthony, Elijah, Marlon’s grandkids are the same shade as Michael’s kids with straight hair also, Carol his wife was a black woman. There’s a collage right above in my post featuring biracial children with non-kinky hair.
who most had non-black wives, look more biracial than Michael’s?
None of their wives have been white. Michael was the only one who had kids with a white fair skinned blonde Northern European woman. Alejandro is Colombian, Marlon’s wife is black, Tito’s wife was black, Hazel was black, Margaret is Mexican. And just look at 3T, both parents black and they look biracial, with skin colouring similar to Michael’s own sister LaToya. Hmm, I wonder if Toya was genetically engineered.
How does one also explain all the statues of white children,
Here are some of his things…
I’m not sure what statues of white children you’re talking about? He had lots and lots of bronze statues that were antiques. Here are some of them, two children from South Africa
Some more…
The bronze doesn’t exactly make them look white….
but he may have done some genetic engineering of some sort.
This is so ignorant and crazy, I don’t even know what to say. It’s not possible in 2010 and it most definitely was not possible back in 1997, 1998 and 2001. I have no idea what some people believe fame and money is capable of, or what Michael Jackson the crazy freak is capable of, but performing genetic feats beyond medical control he definitely was not. And if he was gonna try genetically engineering his kids using secrets and fairy dust you’d at least hope he’d try and make sure none of them suffered from vitiligo (or his nose).
But clearly he hated his race and people are unwilling to see it… like his black women pornography, his having his kids raised by an African woman, him hiring the NOI for bodyguards, his chef being black, his doctor being black, his last girlfriend was black, he wanted a black woman to raise his kids should anything happen to his black mother, his PR woman was black, he almost exclusively worked with black musicians and producers, when he wanted someone to give him an award he’d always ask for a certain bootylicious black woman, he made sure his kids were taught about black history, his kids strangely enough refer to themselves as biracial… but this is all just self loathing and only for appearances, even though most people didn’t know about any of it until he died…
why can’t i respond on this site anymore
oh my response was too long i think…idk where to post it now.
i responded to you below because this part was getting too narrow. again i’m not tryingto fight with you, just givingmy opinion.
Rockon, you KNOW your stuff! I am super-duper IMPRESSED by your replies and the evidence you show to back it up!!!!! WOW!
The thing that my english is not perfect and so I am not able to say all the way I want it to be said, but I am sure- like I said before- that you know exactly what I’m talking about. Of course is Michael their father…no evidence needed. If they are really his biological: I am still wondering how he did it, not wondering is just naive…to simply believe they are his is even more naive….I DON’T KNOW; YOU DON’T KNOW; WE DON’T KNOW. That’s my intention.
I guess it is naive to believe in a world where you believe doctors, family, friends, lawyers, DNA tests, statistics, photographic evidence and polygenics. It must be fun to believe in a world where you don’t.
Have you noticed that majority of the Jackson grandkids are biracial and light-skinned people??
I just have to comment on this, I am sooo glad that this happen! Cuz I’ll say this, even if I didn’t know Prince Michael was his son & if I never even knew who Michael Jackson was, & I had just happen to see Prince Michael somewhere walkin’ by himself-I could STILL tell that this boy was something else, he is dark he has dark features with light feature that boy is not that pale!& if anyone recalls Prince Michael’s 1st baby pix he was born with Dark hair & Dark big brown eyes! His hair was colored to Blonde, he was not born Blonde!!!
One more thing to add, & with Blanket Jackson he just spits out as Michael Jackson. Even if I didn’t know MJ had a 3rd child I would have already admittely say, “Now that child favors like Michael Jackson!” Blanket is playful & rambunkous like MJ, he has his “original” nose, lips, eyes, & just looks like what MJ would look like if MJ was a latin decent that’s all! Blanket is too much like MJ to not be his & if anyone doesn’t see it, than they need to take off their rose colored glasses off!!!
I’m sooo glad you put on here everything you said cuz the Jackson’s themselves are not some striaght full 100% black themselves, they have various diff ethnic back ground! I mean LaToya is the lightest in their family, Taryll is the lightest of 3T & their mother was latina & she not at all had light eyes or hair! I’ve seen a music video of Marlon’s son & he was light, but Marlon’s wife was not! The list can go on & on on who R the ones in the Jackson family who are light there is a history-People need to WAKE UP!
Right? Toya looks “mixed” herself! Could you imagine how light her babies would be if she married some White blonde Swedish guy?
I know, you never know-her kids would have probably all have blonde hair & light eyes & stupid would all probably say she adopted them or did what they were “trying” to say MJ did w/his 3! & here if Toya decided to actually be a mother, & was pregnant each time, they (media) would still probably say she was fakin’ it & no way those kids could be hers cuz they were too light! WTF! Not all black people are Dark Chocolate! Black people come in all shapes, shades, & sizes like all human beings. & The Jacksons especially are different from their looks to their personailities.
Not to mention they like to talk about how LaToya wanted to be the female MJ. And that she bleached her skin and did her nose to look like him. You know they’d play off of that. This world makes me so sick at times!! Majority of MJs nieces and nephews are biracial and lightskinned black people!!
People only like to bring that up when they want to discuss how the Jacksons as a whole have issues with blackness and that eventually they believe the Jacksons will be a White family.
Just… eyerolls…
tsk tsk
“The reason he divorced Lisa Marie was because he wanted to have his own children – his own children –and she wasn’t willing to have them. She already had two White children of her own, but this didn’t seem to be enough for him.”
OT to the post, but I wonder if Michael got a little bitter after Lisa gave birth to twins a few years later?
I know I would be mad after that BS she told me a few years ago.
Also, don’t forget that at the Grammy’s a few months ago Prince sounded just like Michael. Deep tone and everything.
people we should realize that african american is totally different than africans living in south america and africa. in fact we are genetically two different groups. the only similarity we have with each other is outward appearance. black americans are an admixture of african, native american, pacific asian, white, and probably other races combined. the only reason why african americans are linked to africans, is because of the hypodecent rule set up by the consitution, that states that if 7 0f 8 of your grandfathers were black, than legally you are a black person. I know this because Social Studies was my major in college. also, my lineage is the same as Michael, my mother side is creole on my grandfathers side, Chicasaw indian, black, while my grandmother father was Chinese, and her mother was Creole and white. I have pictures of my great aunts and they look biracial. and their mother looks russian. And my grandparents had 11 children, and my uncle came out looking mexican, and people can identify the family because of the shape of the eye. And premature gray hair, my mother was born with gray hair, with asian features. And on my grandfather’s side, they looked like Chicasaw. I’m saying this because, black folks are so diluted that it’s ashamed that we have the same background as MJ, yet want to deny MJ3 black heritage.
And let’s be honest, we haven’t seen MJ kids in person, we have no idea how dark those kids really are, and they will darken up before they grow up. And the funny thing about this, is that knowing MJ and his love for Africa, his kids probably know more about Africa, black history than the average black child here in the States.
But, i find it odd that MJ didn’t even tell his own family who Blanket’s mother was. MJ was so secretive.
All this speculation about MJ and LMP is kind of gossipy, because by all indications and his own words his tapes with schmuley, MJ had moved on. So, why would he be upset that she had kids. He had his babies, and he was happy with his family. It’s the fans that want to analyze his feelings. MJ never shared his feelings with the fans on his personal life like that. And he sure wasn’t walking around looking depressed when she had her twins. People want to paint a certain picture of MJ, when at the end of the day, he was your average man.
Good point.
I have never doubted that Michael was the father of these, never. You’ve done an amazing job compiling all of this information and putting it together in a way that denial is impossible. I only wish that everyone could see it, haters and fans alike.
Extra thanks for the photo of Blanket and Prince’s MJ sized feet, that was just adorable, especially Blanket!
You fans have gone over and above the call of duty! MJ really had some die-hard and hardworking fans to go to all this trouble to defend him to the hilt. Congratulations on the superior jobs you have all done to attempt to clear his name and his legacy to any readers. Your posts and research are awesome and exceptionally excellent! It’s too bad you don’t all work for the media.
I don’t understand after recently readin’ John Legend’s tweet what he is gettin’ at! One moment I thought that maybe he was defendin’ MJ’s kids & sayin’ after seein’ the kids at the pool & Prince Michael’s condition that means obvious it is MJ’s kids & people have way too long put down MJ over his own skin condition & now his son has it! But then I re-read it & it sounds as though maybe he’s bitter & tryin’ to say MJ wanted to be white & have white kids? I’m confused? Extactly what is John Legend is tryin’ to say?
He made those tweets after MJ died, he was trying to say MJ wanted to be White.
What was the tweet about? I missed it?
Right after MJ died he tweeted:
According to Yazmar.com, John Legend added his opinion (via Twitter) not about MJ’s accolades as a performer but rather about his appearance. This came about after John heard about some racial discrimination at a swim club in Huntington Valley, Pennsylvania and this is what he had to say:
“I wonder what young black kids are thinking now as we glorify MJ who went through such lengths to change his complexion and have white kids interesting to think about in the context of the comments about the complexion of the kids at the pool. Just to be clear, I’m very much an MJ fan and I believe he should be celebrated. Just acknowledging that there were some troubling and sad aspects of his life that should at least be thought-provoking to us. Ok, enough “deep thoughts” for tonight. Hope I didn’t offend w/ the MJ thoughts. I truly appreciate and respect him as an artist…And my comments were in no way meant as a diss to him. Just looking at bigger questions that came to mind with the Philly incident”
Thanks. That is why a celebrity should abide by MJ’s philosophy & just shut your trap because that comment of his is now forever public knowledge. I wonder if he’s had a change of mind ever since he made that tweet of his.
Yeah I wonderin’ the same thing….I wonder if John Legend has now changed his mind. He should’ve waited ’til he met “personally” all of MJ’s kids & MJ’s whole family b’fore he tweeted & he even did a performance w/Stevie Wonder tribute for MJ doin’ a MJ song so it does make me wonder how does he feel now?
WOW! I see you even added more updates to this entry & have blasted away the dissenting posts! Good job!
I believe John Legend was reiterating all of the myths he had heard about Michael and his “self identity” issues and I have no doubt that those myths were reenforced to him by Quincy Jones. I by no means believe that Legend should be given a “pass” for his remarks because intelligent adults wouldn’t speak about a topic they have no knowledge of. Legend seems a little shaky or confused about what he believes because he was quick to remove the comments like a coward after being challenged by fans. Though Legends comments were bad, don’t forget the comments by Quincy Jones, they were far worse. Especially coming from a man Michael considered a mentor and father figure and the fact that Jones will be cashing Thriller, Off The Wall and Bad checks for the rest of his life.
True DAT TRUE DAT!!! U R SOOO RITE! I TOTALLY AGREE!!!! That’s somethin’ that really upsets me is Q! He’s the one who has only married white women & had all part white kids people need to (media)needs to get more involved & quiz Q on that! Whose to say he may have had some hand in gettin’ MJ to publicly to be seen w/more white girls like Brooke Shields since Q seems to like to brag ’bout bein’ ’round MJ in a Ebony(from last yr.) article magazine special of bein’ ’round MJ when he was w/Brooke Shields & LMP-THAT’s Q was braggin’ ’bout…if anyone has read that Ebony mag done (last yr.) for MJ!
Hey everybody! This chick on Ebay has MJ’s face plastered on her ads to sell SKIN BLEACHING CREAM!!!! I was mortified so I wrote her this:
I don’t think it is NICE that you have the late great Michael Jackson’s photo in your ad. That is DISRESPECTFUL especially since he had a MEDICAL skin condition — vitiligo. Did he use YOUR bleach cream? I think not. So WHY is his face on here? No MJ fan would appreciate this!
Fans, please put 370305793332 in the Ebay SEARCH box and blast this babe for doing this! She has other ads too with his picture. This is an atrocity!
Hi Wilhemina,
I would like to offer another suggestion as well, try to contact the executors of his estate. Michael’s name, image and likeness are the “intellectual” properties of his estate and no one can use them for commercial purposes without authorization from his estate. Hit this sad woman where it truly hurts, her pocket. She doesn’t need any added traffic to her page to cause further confusion.
But I have no way of knowing HOW to contact MJ’s estate or I would have done that first since I do know that his image and likeness is being exploited for commercial purposes w/o authorization. Would the owner of this blog PLEASE tell us how to contact The KOP’s estate? Thank you!
Hi sweet La-cienega xoxo
This is me, Cherry Coffee from Lipstickalley!>>I don’t know if u remember me?!
Miss u and the girls soooooo much. I wish that I could log in to the forum like before. But my pesky studies are keeping me away 😦 please send my hugs and kisses to all the girls. Gosh I miss them 😦
I want to thank for your immensely informative blog. U make it easier for me when I explain to the uninformed some stuff regarding Mike. I copy and paste, and BAM ppl feel embarrassed at their sheer ignorance 😀
Last time I had to use ur blog was with an Emirati journalist. He is a massive MJ fan. Yet he knew nothing about his vitiligo. He fell to the whole “MJ wanted to be white blah blah” myth. So I copied some infos from ur blog. Sent him some of your links. And guess what? He thanked me for informing him ( I kinda felt that he was embarrassed too lol).
Never stop baby and don’t let some of the ignorant comments discourage u. If some people are so brain-clogged. They can’t fathom genetics. They can’t see resemblance through the pics. Well, it’s sad to be them. They are preoccupied with prejudice and wrong info, to the extent that they can’t see reality even if it hit them in the face. But u know what? much much more people are coming to believe that MJ had indeed fathered those kids. Haters/non-believers/those clinging to myths when it comes to genetics>>they all could very kindly head to the left 😉 >>>I thought that Prince’s vitiligo photos would change everybody’s mind. But it seems some people love the feeling of their own ignorance. Anything, that would debunk their preconceived notions,sound scary to them! SMH @ the nonsense!
p.s: have u girls discussed this photo AT LENGTH in Lipstickalley forum?? 😀 It is indeed worth discussing and dissecting 😀
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now I knew our bb was “enormously talented,” but in this photo, things seem rather scary talented !!!!!
love and peace xoxo
Thank you for posting this because i was thinking Micheal can have kids that do look white, if Micheal is mixed himself . You don’t have to look a certain way to show that you are mix I seen a child that was mix with filipino and black and she came out dark ,when so many ppl would think she would have came out caramel; or tan looking .If God wants you to look a certain way that’s the way your going to come out . Thank you for showing the chart because it lets ppl see how genetics work, they just wasn’t paying attention in Biology class.It also race threw my head! Wondering if his mother was mix ?She does have slanted eyes, oh she looks black she ain’t mix what a lot of ppl would say well reread the 2ND SENTENCE PLEASE.I’m so glad I re-look to see if there was anything on here about that.(So Micheal was mixed). Also white wife to concieve. Come On People!
Yes, Michael mother Katherine has an east Indian and Chinese background. That’s why here eyes are slanted.
Once again great, job on a thoroughly researched topic. I particularly loved the MJ’s pic superimposed over half of Blankets face. I got attacked in forum for simply stating that Blanket looks like MJ when MJ was young pre-surgery. But he does.
In the end ultimately people will believe what they want to believe, no matter how much evidence pictorial, genetic or otherwise is out there because Michael deliberately surrounded himself in mystery. I do wish his kids & their paternity can be left alone they are still only kids.
I also just feel that you Americans are just a little bit tooo obsessed with skin colour. Just my opinion though. Sorry if it offends.
No Red, you’re correct. Americans are still TOO PREJUDICED and it is offensive — for them to be that way, not for you to state the truth.
People should NOW be able to understand why Michael covered over his children’s faces. The public and the media would have forever been evaluating, analyzing, and criticizing their looks in relation to Michael in a NEGATIVE way….saying they were DEFINITELY not his OWN, etc. In this way, Prince’s vitiligo is somewhat of a blessing even tho SOME SILLY IGNORANT people still don’t see the handwriting on the wall!
Also, I did email Attorney John Branca of MJ’s estate and asked him to intervene with that Ebayer posting Michael’s face to sell their bleaching cream! He thanked me for doing so.
i love michael as much as the next person but sometimes i’m irritated by how fans think he’s perfect. i do respect you for doing this very informative article. what i am confused about is fans getting mad at the fans who are skeptical. it’s not like they’re being skeptical for no reason. as a young black person who looked up to michael, one can get confused when things keep happening (and we can cross out vitiligo because he explained it) but it also raises the issue that technically, michael didn’t owe his race anything.
for anyone to say he had no self issues especially with his race…i dont know if i all the way believe that. so first of all the only women he talks about that he’s dated are all of one race. i never heard him gushing about stephanie mills PUBLICLY or anyone else of color (other than diana). he had them in his videos yeah but never spoke of the, even the celebrity ones who claimed to have something with hi. while i am not blaming him i have always wondered what was the reason behind this?
he always put emphasis on the white ones he had a fling with…the girl from thriller (who people will say is lying)made all these claims that they made out and stuff yet he was always so quick to talk about brooke and tate. i even think its weird how a magazine had to even ask him if he liked black women and this was back in the day. then his nose increasingly gets smaller (yes he was told he had a big nose and taunted but he altered it to an ideal that fit european qualities) and all these things about genetics okay they’re all good and fine but like someone stated why is michael the only one in the whole family whose kids look more white than biracial. can someone genetically prove that? out of all his brothers, who all dated out of their race, he was the one who had the kids witht he most white features/qualities? And I agree with Ina. Soemtimes as fans you want to justify everything but some things we may never know. I have done this with him and there are times i just have to accept things as they are. and okay, so there are explanations for prince and paris…but we don’t even know the mother of blanket. what race is he to begin with? and how is his hair texture that way with absolutely NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO african qualities? i am sorry if i piss anyone off…i just also dont think it is fair to get mad at fans who sometimes wonder wth is going on because of the succession of different events that kept happening.
also, can someone explain to me…how was his bleaching prince’s hair blond protecting him from threats? what threats? i really dont understand that part. there are just so any things that tend to make me wonder.
while i do believe he was proud of being a black man, there are a lot of complexities that black people have had to deal with, especially in the time Michael grew up in…a black boy in a world where there weren’t that many of them. the pressures must have been really hard. i hope i dont make anyone mad but i am wondering how people can get mad at fans who are still skeptical. i am by no means bashing michael because i LOVE him but sometimes i do wonder what complexities he may have had over his race.
Prince received many threats when he was born, this is documented all over the papers from that time and Michael and Debbie have both spoken about it. Why would he have had a brunette genetically engineered child if he was so desperate for a blonde? I don’t understand any of the logic people have about that. Michael isn’t an idiot. For the first few Prince would go out with his face uncovered too….
Michael declared his love for one woman time and time again… and that wasn’t any white woman, it was Diana Ross. Just because nobody believed him doesn’t make it any less meaningful that he did state it repeatedly. He dated many Black women, but the relationships that were most meaningful to him were the ones not in the spotlight. He did not love Tatum and Brooke the way he loved some other women.
These children are Michael’s… so if you believe they’re “White” then it’s because of the issues you have with him. Debbie Rowe offered the children to him without any deals (at the time) and he was desperate so he accepted.
threats for what though? so he changed the hair to change his identity or something? and i know michael is not an idiot. in fact he is VERY smart. and i get what you’re saying about him dating black women and how the most meaningful relationships to him were not in the spotlight but what i am saying is do you think its fair to get mad at people for wondering about it when the only ones he speaks of mostly, and the ones he married (why did he not marry those other black women who were meaningful to him then), were all white…i’m saying some people’s questions and speculations aren’t baseless. i mean i know people can be really heartless and rude about it but i dont see how people get mad when there are all these strings of events that can lead one to wondering about how he felt about his race.
Threats on Prince’s life, people were going to abduct him and ask for a ransom. You can see him walking around without any scarves as a kid, it was Debbie after the threats who wanted him and Paris covered.
Why did he not marry these other Black women? Maybe you should ask them. I’d love to know why Diana Ross turned him down.
but how does changing the hair blond help though? sorry if this is a dumb question.
and so far diana ross is the only black woman. which means she is probably the only one. i haven’t heard of any of these other black women from the meaningful relationships.
anyway i am not trying to start a fight but sharing my opinions which i am not saying are right. thanks for having the conversation with me without fighting or being rude about it. you’ve done a great job with the blog and your stuff is pretty informative.
what i am stressing is i just dont see why people get mad when certain signs are there but anyway, thanks for your responses and sorry if i upset anyone. what i think is true or not doesn’t matter at the end of the day.
but how does changing the hair blond help though? sorry if this is a dumb question.
He was known to be a brunette, if people saw a blonde kid with his nannies/security people they could have assumed it wasn’t his.
and so far diana ross is the only black woman. which means she is probably the only one. i haven’t heard of any of these other black women from the meaningful relationships.
So you think in Michael Jackson’s entire life he was seeing Tate, Steph, Diana, Brooke, Lisa and Debbie and nobody else? Really? Please don’t tell me you believe that. There’s a LOT about Michael that isn’t told. I’m sure most people didn’t expect him to have a porn collection or to drink or for his porn to involve overweight women, older women or Black women. He was with a lot of other women in his life, and most of them weren’t White. His first girlfriend was Black/mixed (“nose wide open”) and his last girlfriend was Black (the one the BG talk about).
if you go around this site doesn’t it cover all that concerning his choice in women and his privacy issues. just because he liked his privacy doesnt mean he turned against his race. his choice in women (to me anyway) does not provide an insite into whether or not he had become racist. more or less like he was trying to protect his children, the mothers and his other female friends from prying eyes. you really dont know if these women wanted to be talked about in public.give the poor guy a break
I will say this. This is the fairest, non-cliqued, unbiased MJ forum there is. Most of the info posted here is well researched and is intended to enlighten, educate, inform and to generate debate. Whilst I do not agree with everything in its entirety, and sometimes do not agree with Rocky’s responses, I respect them. Nobody is mad at you for stating a different opinion, but be prepared for a healthy intellectual debate.
I by no means agree with or endorse what you are saying but I am enjoying the debate. Thank you.
PLEASE READ….PLEASE
Thank you SO MUCH much. That was and is my intention. Those fans in here are not seeking for any truth and real facts…they want Michael to be an angel; BY HOOK AND NY CROOK. He was IN so many ways…but like I said before: As a fan…in here…YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE CRITICAL OR JUST SKEPTICAL…OTHERWISE YOU’RE STUPID; BRAINWASHED OR WHAT SO EVER. All the evidence here…the pics and the stuff written…I’m sorry it’s just ridiculous…..only fans (like you) do belive the shit showed here as evidence. The most absurd thing is showing a pic of REAL WHITE children and comparing those three kids to PPB by saying: those are white kids. Really strange, because when I was trying to say that PPB do not have any african american features or slooks, people…”those real fans” in this blog started to tell me that african people can look very different and stuff….WELL “White people” do look different too…yes really! Prince and Paris are caucausan. DOT! They’ve got tanned over the last few years…escpecially in the last year. They’ve got a tan by the sun…that you can tell….and not only by “real fans” but just by normal and realistic people. Guys..you just need to read your own entries and then compare it to otgher entries of other “real fans” (that is not meant by word, it’s very ironic…I hope you understand, bacause I’m really not sure about that) what you find is speculation…only stupid speculation. You have no idea how funny all that appears if you take a real look on that case. If I look on lionel richies daughter then I see: yes she is very light but I see real african american featues…howsoever they look…she has them: I can tell, anybody can tell. You can’t! Because it just doesn’t fit in your idiealistic picture you drew of Michael over the years, bacause you are sorry for what has been done to this man. Take it for real. He was a real man, he was the biggest man on this earth, but he was although the most broken soul on this planet. and broken souls do struggle…a lot. and michael did struggle with his life, his looks and everything. All the statues at the neverland ranch show caucasian children, he looked more and more like a caucasian women over the years (I know he didn’t want to look that feminine but those huge eyes and that tiny nose (and make up) are very feminine features and acknowledged typical caucasian beaty standards. and that he had vitiligo and lupus is to me as as clear as water. BUT he although had one million nose jobs, not because of breathing complications..and NOT JUST TWO (I know michael said that and yes we believe him…like anything he says). ohhh and that topic about prince’ hair and the threats…are just so ridicolous. you guys..the real fans are really, really dumb. you can not respect and love michael just the way he really was!!!! so know enough with all that kindness: you guys need really to shut the fuck up, because you are making a fool of yourself in front of the world wide web (like most americans do with their stupidity (bacause: very uneducated). I love and adore michael…he fascinates me just the way he is…was.
anaway THANK you for reading!
They’ve got tanned over the last few years…escpecially in the last year.
LOL of course. Permatanned children. It’s like magic.
All the evidence here…the pics and the stuff written…I’m sorry it’s just ridiculous…..only fans (like you) do belive the shit showed here as evidence.
the real fans are really, really dumb.
you guys need really to shut the fuck up,
You enjoy keeping yourself ignorant and obnoxious like a “real” fan.
I especially love it when people on your “real” fan side never manage to research or use a fact to back anything you say. Everything is based in some wonderful world of objective speculation where even vitiligo isn’t “real” enough.
I love “pigmentary annoyance” btw everyone I know got a kick out of that piece of stupidity… I mean, “reality.”
ok I am not talking to you…because you seem having no brain at all. I KMOW…LIKE I SAID A THOUSAND TIMES BEFORE THAT HE HAS VITILIGO? so what’s the point…what about all the other stuff I’ve written about him? You do not want to fight about that? there is no need to show a short clip or pic of whoever too, what exactly are you trying to tell me? and like I said before, I am not amrican or english, it’s not my mother language…so making fun of my expression is really dumb. could you describe or just understand a medical circumsatnce in german or russian? especially you should really try to think a little…just think and stop searching for any kind of animation. good lord…
I’m not making fun of your expression I’m making fun of your inability to use the word “vitiligo” with regard to Prince and having to resort to making up medical phrases to explain it. Prince does have vitiligo, so how did he get it? Through his White father?
there is no need to show a short clip or pic of whoever too, what exactly are you trying to tell me?
Sorry, maybe I should speak to you in the mature and articulate way that you talk to me:
“You seem to have no brain at all.”
“You should really try to think a little.”
“the real fans are really, really dumb.”
“you guys need really to shut the fuck up”
If only I had a brain I might try and be interested in how you perceive African features to be, because clearly it’s your opinion about what these children look like that rises above everything else. But alas, I do not.
Girl, I think what you have here is a hater or troll in disguise. All she can spout are insults, vulgarities & provocative slurs. She doesn’t even deal with the subject matter for a healthy debate, instead relies on age-old boring & uninventive hater tactics to get to you & your site. Really, who’s making themselves look like the fool here: the person attempting to have a healthy debate or the one resorting to personal attacks & unimaginative adjectives? LOL!
It seems your blog has gotten very popular that now haters/trolls alike have gravitated here! Is that a good thing?;)
Listen, his kids look more White because none of his brothers had children by White women — Michael is the only one who did. He chose a White woman to father his children because she OFFERED.
He fell IN LOVE with Lisa Marie because they had a lot in common, and she was Elvis’ daughter, and it was his fantasy to marry her one day, and she felt the same way. She just happened to be White. So what? Love is love. He had more in common with White celebrity women because they had experienced being childhood stars just like him. What Black female was a CHILD star during his time period?
But Michael’s FIRST and MOST INTENSE true love was with Diana Ross, and she is Black, so that’s that. He is not prejudiced against his own race. He also had attractions to other black women too, some were not famous, but some were like Beyonce, Kelly, Stephanie, Mya.
He would naturally mention his relationships with Tatum and Brooke, etc. because they were also CELEBRITIES that the public would recognize. They were his trophies, in a way, but they were also good friends, and it just so happened that they were White too. He did not pick his friends by their color. Michael liked who he liked without regard to their race and this is the way it SHOULD be.
He told LaToya that Blanket’s mother is Hispanic. Perhaps he changed his mind about blonde hair and next wanted a child with long, black, straight hair that looked more like HE looked at the time. Thus, Blanket came out PERFECT in that way. Blanket looks like MJ in the past as a little boy AND also resembles how MJ looked in this present decade. Remember: MJ gets what MJ wants!
I personally believe he bleached Prince’s hair because MAYBE he may have wanted him to resemble MacCaulay Culkin, his best friend; and mostly because he just LIKED blonde hair. So what’s wrong with that? And he STOPPED doing it later, meaning, he “got over” it.
I am certain though that Michael may very well have had issues with his looks IN GENERAL, and this is the fault of his own family teasing him, his own Black people putting down each other, Hollywood standards, and of White America as well..especially, as you stated, back in the era he was growing up in. This is all very logical.
Then too, he almost HAD to change his facial features and his hair since his vitiligo was MAKING him turn white. Otherwise, he would have REALLY looked a fright! He was just trying to MATCH his face and hair with his new skin color and GENETICS was to blame for his changing color.
He may have been very unhappy with his looks after he changed them to match, though, because he looked unnatural; but let’s face it, people with VITILIGO look freakish. Their skin color is NOT natural; and since he had to change his nose and hair, etc. to match, NONE of it looked quite “right,” but HE COULDN’T HELP IT! He INHERITED the disease people!!
However, yes, he was a flawed human living in an EXTREMELY flawed society in the EXTREMELY public eye of the entire world, and he had MANY issues including some self-destructiveness, not unlike many, many celebrities. So, what else is new? MJ was still THE GREATEST of our generation!!!
(oops sorry i responded in the wrong section)
WILHEMINA thank you so much for your response.
as far as altering his appearance to better match the vitiligo, i do understand that. but how do you explain the nose job during thriller? was that still because of vitiligo? or was it something he did just because he wanted to. compared to when he was younger, his nose looked a bit different during off the wall era too. was this part of the vitiligo also? and the cleft added later to his chin was also part of fitting into having vitiligo? I understand his reasons for changing his hair, which was totally up to him. I loved his hair all his life. And i understand his hair wasn’t the same after the burn incident and also his struggles with vitiligo.
also, was lisa ever a child star? i know her father was but i don’t recall her having such a career as a youngster but i guess in a way she cold still be considered a celebrity. debbie rowe wasn’t a childhood star either…in fact, debbie is as regular as they come, but i do get what you are saying about him relating to child stars. as far as young black child stars, true, there weren’t many and even though that is an issue in itself, i wont get into it right now. stephanie mills was somewhat a childhood star (which to this day i wonder if she was just the one lying about the being together or if michael just didn’t get the memo and had no idea that they were dating lol). the girl from facts of life was too (sorry i can’t remember her name)
your explanation for him bleaching his kid’s hair is interesting. i haven’t heard that theory before, of him wanting his kid to look like that boy. i have heard he did like blond though. but i’m going to wait for more answers/speculations on this because i am hearing many theories. thank you for your response. as far as the threat thing, if it was indeed a threat had been sent out to him i am wondering why paris’s hair wasn’t dyed too? ultimately as their parent it was his choice, but i still dont know why people get so offended when sometimes people wonder. not saying it is right, but fact remains that there are some social norms that some people are used to and when something is done differently in that way, how can people not ask or wonder why? i do admit that he was not harming anybody by doing that, but i had a little cousin back in the day who truly loved michael and was confused about these very things of their own idol.
as far as him wanting a kid that had long black hair, so are you implying he chose the mother based on what he wanted his future child to look like? i didn’t really understand you there but thank you for taking the time out to answer me.
i do not believe he was racist at all. that’s not what i’m saying. but i do believe that he had to deal with certain complexities with his race. and as far as the women he liked i do think he had a preference for white women, which is not wrong at all. but i guess i get irritated when fans try to deny it as if it wasn’t a possibility.
i’m sorry if i have upset people with my musings. i repeat that even though i do believe the kids are his i am still confused over certain things but at the end of the day that is the only father they knew so he IS their father irrespective of all the ambiguities that people will always ask about.
i totally agree, ( who do we covet?) who we see everyday. he was around alot of white women so just because a black one pops up doesn’t mean he would go for her if he was relating and friendly with the white ones whom he worked with or worked for him and he was used to. not racist at all just a preference at the time. he had a plethra of different women over the years do you homework.
I personally believe he had a mild form of Body Dysmorphic Disorder, compounded by being a high profile celebrity in the spot light and triggered by negative taunts about his looks by his own father in his childhood. He also had severe acne in his teens which is traumatizing for any teen, let alone an international superstar teen idol. The appearance of and the chronic worsening of the vitiligo must have just tipped the balance. In addition to that, he had the means and access to the best plastic surgeons in the world. That in itself is a recipe for disaster.
I personally could never understand why Michael to begin with, just did not just say to the world, I have vitiligo and potentially raised awareness about this disorder back then. I believe he was probably advised not to, in my opinion it was the wrong advice. I don’t believe back then it was the correct PR thing for celebs to be open about their personal traumas like it is today. He was old school.
I believe if he had just been honest about it then, all this talk of him trying to shy away from his race will never have been an issue to start with. Michael always seemed very very upset, when asked about it.
If you really look at Michael’s life there have been quite a few things that I believe have been PR disaster for MJ, these decisions have not served him well. And I do not believe these were his personal decisions. Just my opinion.
according to the Vanity Fair article with Ola Ray and the director of the Thriller video, the director said that MJ had plastic surgery because he didn’t want to look like his father. Then to add to that, during the late 70s MJ was in an accident which resulted with the doctors giving him a slimmer nose. Also, according to his doctors, MJ had lupus, and it was eating away his nose. And also, according to Mj and Kaen Faye his make up artist and close friend, he was a perfectionist. I, truly believe MJ didn’t want to be white, because he said he didn’t want to be white, and all indications point to the fact that he was very much proud of being a black man. His music is more African and his dance is more African, than black artists, that people deem pro-black.
And as far as his selection in women, well, MJ said that he would have to marry a woman that has as much money and fame as he did, so that he would know it was true. How many black women have as much fame and fortune as him? Oprah has as much money and fame as MJ, but she ain’t going to leave Steadman for noone. And let’s be honest, MJ said that he didn’t know how to be married, how many black women would put up with their husbands leaving for months at a time, without putting her foot down.
And just because MJ didn’t profess all his girlfriends to the world, doesn’t mean that he didn’t have black women in and out of his life. I, mean Grace the nanny was really close to him, always told Grace according to a close friend, Serpian that he wanted to take her to Europe and show her around. Or the fact that he was openly attracted to his chef Kai Chase. According to the director from Thriller, he was discombulated with Ola Ray. He was attracted to black women, we just didn’t have as much as he did, to want to marry us, without having to split his money, and he didn’t wnat to take his hard earn money and split it.
I think MJ was attracted to black women, but the reality of it, is that MJ was looking for a woman that wouldn’t need his fame or fortune, and ultimately, like he said on the Schumuley tapes, it would have to be a McCarthy or a Presley. But according to Latoya, MJ never found love with a woman, he was in love with his family and fans. He should have thrown caution to the wind and fell in love with a regular chick.
However, I truly think that MJ would have ultimately fallen for Kai Chase, because she spoke about how impressed he was with her multiethnic background, her connections to Hollywood, Redd Fox goddaughter, grandfather a famous Cuban musician. And she had her own money, business, celebrity in her own right, and she was good with his kids, and acts as if his childish mind set was a good thing. And besides, MJ didn’t talk about who he was seeing, but in the last 10 years of his life, MJ had all kinds of swagger, you know he had to be dating a sista.lol
Ummmmm, I don’t know how true this is, but it has been said that Michael BROKE his nose when he fell during dance rehearsals once. Since he had to have his nose “fixed” anyway, he went all the way and got himself a slimmer nose. He, no doubt, LIKED the look of the trimmer nose and so he continued to have his nose tweaked throughout the years.
Being a perfectionist is oftentimes a BAD thing because you can NEVER get anything perfect ENOUGH. And if Body Dysmorphic Disorder was one of his many “issues” than that also explains the constant need to DO SOMETHING to his nose, etc.
Somebody else here stated that his nose didn’t heal right because of the vitiligo and lupus and THAT’S WHY they kept having to alter it. Could be true.
The cleft in his chin was just a physical trait he admired, and so he got one!
Lisa Marie was not in showbiz as a child but she was still a very FAMOUS child and led a sheltered life with body guards, etc. She had problems and pressures growing up because she was the child of a huge star and was, therefore, in the spotlight.
Debbie Rowe was regular, but like I stated before, she VOLUNTEERED to have his children and he TRUSTED her friendship and so she was simply to be a SURROGATE mother, at first.
Kym Fields from The Facts of Life had a big crush on Michael, but I don’t think he reciprocated.
I had not heard about the threats to Prince until now, so MAYBE that’s why his dad dyed his hair blonde as a disguise. If so, by the time Paris came along and he took them out in public, I think he was using the scarves and masks to cover them so there was no need for anything else to be done.
Yes, I am implying that he chose Blanket’s mother based on what he wanted his next child to possibly look like. I heard BABY Blanket was BLONDE tho!
I think MJ had a preference for any woman of any race if he thought she was pretty. He also preferred to be associated with rich, famous, legends like himself. In this way, he was elitist.
“I had not heard about the threats to Prince until now, so MAYBE that’s why his dad dyed his hair blonde as a disguise. If so, by the time Paris came along and he took them out in public, I think he was using the scarves and masks to cover them so there was no need for anything else to be done.”
THEN HE COULD HAVE STOPPED IT; BUT HE KEPT DYEING THE CHILD’S HAIR UNTIL THE AGE OF …I DON’T KNOW EXACTLY LIKE 7;8 OR 9….I’VE HEARD ABOUT THE THREATS…BUT WE ALL KNOW IT WAS NOT A GOOD IDEA TO MAKE IT STOP LIKE THAT…I mean..seriosly…dyeing the hair of an ONE year old child..is just sick, no matter why…that wasn’T a good solution…there are although fans who believe it was Debbies idea…I do not believe that, since she was not allowed to make any kind of decisions.I think Michael wanted to have a blond little Prince. Thats all. And like many of us know: MJ GETS WHAT HE WANTS!
Michael was such a fool. He goes through all that effort for a blonde child when he could have just chosen a Blonde sperm donor.
You’d think he’d have learnt with Paris and Blanket but I guess he just never did.
What an idiot.
“rockforeveron”
chosing a blond sperm donor doesn’t mean you are going to have a blond child…, it’s not that easy, the genes are working it out…
although you can not chose features like the size of the nose via baby design..we are still not that far…you should know how baby design really works: they “produce” a lot of embryos and then make selection process with the featurs the parents want, like: gender, skin color, hair color, body height or make the embryos test for any kind of desease (because of the dna/dns) since there is not gene with the name “NOSE”, there’S no possibility chosing the size of the nose…like you requested a while ago…I guess when Prince was born, Michael got the idea: He would look sooo cute if he would have been blond and then just did it…but not because of threats or anything like that. There are pictures of Michael and the BLOND 1,5 year old Prince walking through the streets with bodyguad wayne, so if he tried to protect his son, why exposing him that way just a few weeks later? Don’t tell he didn’t expect some paparazzies. and girl…for god’s sake…what you are doing here is really awsome…you are doing a very good job…but fighting against everone who’s skeptical about this topic and glorifying everyone who’s with you, makes it a little dumb…don’t you think? what is your intention.? To make me and the other skeptical fan believe that he is the father? I tell you what: HE IS, like I said before. But still a lot of things here, which are evidence for you…are just rediculous and NO facts, but you should can’t see…it’s like did a little brainwash to yourself….sorry…but how come you just don’t get it?
chosing a blond sperm donor doesn’t mean you are going to have a blond child…, it’s not that easy, the genes are working it out…
Oh please. When you have a Blonde Nordic mother like Debbie then choosing a Mark Lester for the father should make the blondeness much more likely than having to bleach his son’s hair. What next, you’re going to tell me the sperm donor for Prince WAS blonde? Or that DEBBIE has some olive skin somewhere in her family history???? So Debbie can have a darker history but these babies can’t? LOL!
should know how baby design really works: they “produce” a lot of embryos and then make selection process with the featurs the parents want, like: gender, skin color, hair color, body height or make the embryos test for any kind of desease (because of the dna/dns)
WTF
This is actually against the law. You cannot “genetically engineer” your own baby. The most you can do is ensure the child does not have any genetic diseases. You can’t even select the sex. It’s against the law. And the Genome was not fully known back in 1996 so this would have been impossible. YOU were the one who suggested geneticaly engineered babies, not me.
There are pictures of Michael and the BLOND 1,5 year old Prince walking through the streets with bodyguad wayne,
Exactly. And nobody in that street could tell that child was Michael’s. You are slow as hell.
. But still a lot of things here, which are evidence for you…are just rediculous and NO facts, but you should can’t see…it’s like did a little brainwash to yourself….sorry…but how come you just don’t get it?
No facts? You dismiss all the facts. That’s what makes you sound brainwashed. The only “facts” in your favour are their “whiteness.” You haven’t posted any facts, it’s hilarious. Oh wait – except telling me your own ignorant opinion about what biracial children look like and how Michael Jackson hated his race. Keep preaching to the people who hate Michael, they clearly know the truth and not these crazy fans who spend time actually RESEARCHING information. It’s a radical concept, I know.
“rockforeveron”
one more time: fighting against everone who’s skeptical about this topic and glorifying everyone who’s with you, makes it a little dumb…don’t you think?
one more thing: There are pictures of Michael and the BLOND 1,5 year old Prince walking through the streets with bodyguad wayne,
Exactly. And nobody in that street could tell that child was Michael’s. You are slow as hell.
YOU MADE MY DAY. The whole world knew that this boy is Michaels Prince…and that was the time around when people started to be skeptical…all this didn’t start just yesterday…the topic is the same age as the kids
illegal to produce designer babies? in the whole world…yeah just americans think that way. make another research…
I actually would like to discuss that with someone else but you, but you seem the only one here hanging out the whole day…try something different…you’re getting on my nerves…you are so annoying. just let the others answer on my opionion…
illegal to produce designer babies? in the whole world…yeah just americans think that way. make another research…
LOL I’m not an American and it’s illegal and ridiculous. How did Michael manage to conquer the human genome in 1996?
I’ll wait for you to post your “facts.”
Then again, watch the video here: http://jezebel.com/5339899/allure-michael-jackson-did-not-have-body-dysmorphic-disorder
Thanks for this clip Wilhemina!! It was very interesting. This very well meaning Journalist was trying to make a compelling argument against the body dysmorphia theory, but inadvertently presented a very classic case of someone with body dysmorphia. If she had spoken with a psychiatrist they would have told her that. I am NOT saying he had it by any means, I just think he had a form of it.
People with body dysmorphia usually have very legitimate and valid reasons for their multiple surgeries etc… and are very well versed and convincing about why they continually want to fix and revise, tweak and re-tweak and then it becomes one very vicious cycle. They usually start out with the very best of intentions to have 1 or 2 surgeries and then it escalates. If you listen to the reasoning behind some of these surgeries it doesn’t make rational sense, but there is always a good reason.
For example, you start off with a real broken nose but accidentally ended up with a slimmer nose, then you revise the nose because you want to reach/sing higher notes (possible he is an artist), then the nose doesn’t heal as perfectly or evenly as you (perfectionist, I still love you MJ!!) would like, so you get treatments for it ie the steroid shots to the nose and then other procedures to treat the previous procedures that didn’t work and yet more minor procedures to correct or revise. You do not acknowledge these as surgeries, because in your mind, you are still trying to correct the original surgery that should have been perfect. Its a pattern. And the greedy Drs are always on hand to suggest even more newer treatments.
After watching the clip I was even more convinced he had it, Sorry!. Just my opinion though. That is something that I can reconcile in my mind. I don’t buy all this nonsense about him not wanting to look like his father or not accepting or not wanting to be his race.
My mother always said that MJ attached himself to those in the spotlight. Look at his friends, Elizabeth Taylor, Gregory Peck, Fred Astaire, Frank Sinatra, all the Motown legends, Quincy Jones, Whitney Houston and him were very close friends. Naomi Campbell said they were close friends. And Mac was a famous child superstar, Webster a 80s popular superstar, Alfonso Ribero and Ricki Schrouder famous child stars. Tatum O’Neil famous actress from a famous family, Brooke Shields famous actress and model. The Queen Diana Ross, Barry Gordy. MJ was an elitist, even his employees have connections to famous or powerful people.People don’t realize that although Grace Rwaramba was his nanny, she wasn’t just a regular African girl, looking for a handout. She is the adopted daughter of Deepak Chopra. A reknown guru, that is famous in his own right. You don’t think that closeness she had to Deepak impressed MJ to move her really quick in the ranks in his personal life. She went from personal assistant working with the insurance for his employees to his nanny, who ultimately became a close friend and surogate mother to his kids, and rumored girlfriend. So, she ain’t no run of the mill regular woman, that he just fell in awe with. Even, Raymone Bain , has family that is in politics. Romonica Harris is a civil rights activist/teacher. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, all had some kind of notoriety. Once again Kai Chase, she has Redd Foxx as a godfather, and grandfather a famous Cuban musician, celeb in her own right. She even said that when he interviewed her, MJ was impressed with that fact.
And all indications point to the fact that he may have been elitist, or atleast carried himself with a certain aura of sophistication or grandeur. 1. The way in which he reared his children, the kids are too well spoken. 2. MJ only listened to Classical music , that was his favorite genre of music. He had classical music playing in the house. According to Latoya, he had pop music. 3. The decor of Neverland and Holmby Hills home, it wasn’t your stereotypical black male home decor.
I’m not hating on MJ elitist attitude, in fact I’m impressed, I want a man like that. I can’t stand for men to have a common attitude.
one word: absolutely!
I don’t believe MJ only listened to Classical music though, if he did, he would’ve centered himself on that genre alone instead of dedicating himself to a lot of soul, gospel & funky music. Wasn’t he also a fan on 9 inch nails?
Yeah, he would sing “Closer” in the studio. He liked having classical playing a lot but he would play other music. I should make a list of all the stuff I’ve heard he liked.
“In their divorce agreement Debbie agreed not to discuss his sex life publically; so it seems absurd to believe he was then also asking her to tell these people they’d had sex.”
Do you have the divorce agreement papers? Or some articles about it? I’d like to know what was written exactly. lol
“sexual behaviour” if there weren’t any, why would that need to be a stipulation? 😉
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0203051finsilver4.html
Thank you!
A lack of sex or non sexual behavior within the marriage also comes under the category of sexual behavior. It doesn’t prove anything. It just means she can not talk about it, whether they had sex or not, especially if they did not have sex.
Well, according to everything, they did have sex.
once again: absolutely!
It is also a standard stipulation in most high profile divorce settlements.
Funny it wasn’t in Lisa Marie’s. Could you show me the numerous other high profile divorces this stipulation has been used?
@Wilhemina, congrats for contacting John Branca. Hopefully he will get the matter resolved quickly. Also there is a site: justice4MJ that you can refer matters of this nature to.
There were so many topics discussed over the last couple of days. Someone asked why MJ didn’t mention his vitiligo sooner. I’ve thought about that and I believe the vitiligo is a result of lupus and I understand why he never mentioned it publicly. Lupus is an autoimmune disease and MJ was diagnosed in the 1980’s. He was already dogged by gay rumors. If he had announced that he suffered from an autoimmune disease in the 1980’s, people would have assumed that he had AIDS. In fact, there are some who insist he died from AIDS complications.
I could never understand why fans would spend so much time analyzing his personal life. What does it reaally matter to the public? An earlier post asks why does Michael’s kids look more white compared to his siblings and suggested MJ suffered from identity issues based on plastic surgery and who he dated. In all honesty, these same questions can be asked of many African Americans in entertainment. I just don’t believe its fair to speculate or assume certain things about him if he never addressed the subject. We are on the outside looking in and many times we only see what the media wants us to see. MJ was born in 1958 in Gary IN. IN has been traditionally one of the most racist states in the mid-West. He lived through segregation, school busing, riots, etc… Do I feel that he being a black man sometimes questioned his standing in the world and what life would be like if he were white? Yes, but I do not believe he rejected his “blackness” in any way.
Thank you Reader! I wish I’d known about the Justice4MJ site before because I really thought Branca might be too busy and think this matter on Ebay was too trivial for him to worry about altho he did send copies of my email to his associates and I don’t see the bleaching cream advertised with MJ’s face now. Guess who is on the ad now? Beyonce!
It makes sense what you said about the reason MJ didn’t announce his autoimmune disease before. I was shocked and it is disturbing that people think he died from AIDS! That is LUDICROUS! The media would have had a field day if that was the case!
I certainly do not believe that MJ rejected his “blackness” in any way either. In fact, it was utterly IMPOSSIBLE for him to do so since EVERYONE IN THE WORLD knew he was a black man, and we all know his family members as well. THE ONE AND ONLY REASON HE CHANGED HIS SKIN COLOR was because of vitiligo and therefore it became also necessary to change his facial features and hair so that all would match. For me, it’s as simple as that.
You are so right about the era in which he was raised and the prejudice that STILL affects Black Americans. Michael was shown MUCH prejudice throughout his personal and professional life. In her biography, Tatum O’Neal claimed her agent told her she couldn’t accept a date with him to an awards show because he was an N!
It may be a true story, but even if she lied on the agent and he did not say that, Tatum decided to put it in her book. Just to hurt Michael who always called her a “friend,” or what? Why? Because he took Brooke Shields instead, and this was Tatum’s evil revenge after all these years? Who knows why she included that hurtful, ignorant slander? But whatever the reason, I know I slammed the book shut forever on her!
I think the fans HERE on THIS forum love to analyze him because it makes them feel closer to him. We want to understand what may or may not have made him tick because this man was the most enigmatic of all entertainers the world has ever experienced and he was a fascinating person and personality. The comments HERE are not mean-spirited as far as I’m concerned. People really just want to be informed and they are seeking honest answers and explanations for their honest questions or doubts.
Why does it not surprise me she replaced MJ with Beyonce, lol. Is it me or does it seem like the main stream marketing execs are trying to erase any trace of blackness on Beyonce?
Also, I agree with you about this site. What I really appreciate is that RockForeverOn confronts any misconceptions with facts, not gossip or speculation. What I hope is that all of us who read and participate here gains a better understanding of people and we become more open and accepting of those who are different and we are a little less quick to judge someone based on what we think we see as opposed to what are known facts.
MJ success and why certain entities in the music industry and media tried to erase MJ blackness is on a different level than Beyonce identity. She isn’t on the level of MJ and the ramifications of his success. MJ was the biggest entertainer in the world, inorder to capitalize on that fact, the entertainment industry and media had to continue to make money off him, and tear him down, he didn’t stay in his place but he was making billions for corporations and the entertainment industry. MJ image had to cater to the white audience because that is where the billions were made. The urban audience for the last 25 years were changing taste in music, focusing on rap, r and b. So, he ultimately had to cater to his loyal fanbase Europe and Asia. Whereas Beyonce is catering moreso to the Urban market, because she is still r and b. MJ brand should never be compared to another artist, and that is an insult. MJ became a superstar through his music and videos, Beyonce has to keep her name out there by creating different venues, such as clothing, etc.
although very true. thank you.
I don’t believe anyone would equate Beyonce’s success to Michael’s. However, I do believe there was a conscious, concerted effort to mainstream Beyonce’s ethnic features. There was some controversy about this issue regarding her L’Oreal campaign. What’s odd is that Beyonce is naturally beautiful and her feature’s aren’t extremely ethnic yet even she received the “white-washed” treatment. I agree with you regarding MJ’s career.
Kitty, I just came by this ABC article with a quote from Joe Jackson that basically SEALED the deal with me. I know the guys doesn’t have any credibility but remember in your other entry where you posted pics of MJ’s vitiligo as a kid? I’ve been encountering those pics for a year now & still believed MJ started showing signs in his late teens. But remember how I said that I’m reconsidering the possibility he started to show signs even younger? Bec of those pics & the fact that Prince started showing early signs as well. Well, not Joe’s comment has made me believe it & I thought you might fin it of interest.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/michael-jacksons-son-suffer-loss-pigment/comments?type=story&id=11064783
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“Everybody tryin’ to make a big thing out of it … They say — ‘He try to paint his self white.’ That’s not true. Michael got vitiligo,” Joe Jackson said. “We saw it comin’ on him … at [an] early age. You know, just a little spot. My aunt had the same thing.”
–Joe Jackson
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First off, WHY IS Chance on here? Git him outta this forum please! He doesn’t BELONG here.
Also, it’s evident, to me, that MJ and Debbie Rowe NEVER had sex because SHE HAS STATED (and so did he) that Prince & Paris were conceived with her eggs and his own sperm cells and that she was just a SURROGATE who let MJ borrow her womb so he could have his own children. They are HIS children but Debbie’s genes are obviously extremely dominant. If he’d just wanted some strictly White kids, he could have ADOPTED them, but the man wanted his OWN children. He also SAID that he used a surrogate for Blanket as well. Now I don’t understand why he didn’t just HAVE SEX the OLD-FASHIONED way with his children’s mothers, but he didn’t.
On the other hand, Donald Trump claims he KNOWS that MJ and Debbie had sex because they stayed in their bedroom suite at Mar-a-Lago a long time together, so maybe Michael did take advantage of the fact that he was MARRIED to this woman, so there was no good reason not to shag her too.
Then again, I totally believe he “got it on” with his WIFE Lisa Marie but, for WHATEVER reason, she didn’t conceive anything, so maybe he just wanted to MAKE SURE it happened by having the conception done in a Petri dish because he was becoming very impatient and didn’t want to be fooling around with women who just wanted him to make love to them FOR PURE PLEASURE but didn’t want to get down to the BUSINESS of having babies.
Debbie was only a surrogate in that she was having his babies without being a conventional mother… but other than that she was never a normal surrogate. He’d known her for 15 years at that point, she’d offered him kids back in 1991 at least, he married her, they actually did stay together a lot.
Debbie and Michael had sex to have babies, she even told the reporter who broke the story that. She might not have able to conceive and had to resort to AI but even Arnold Klein believes they had sex.
Debbie never stated she was impregnated artificially, that is a WELL-KNOWN tabloid lie.
Why won’t people just look at the porn he had in 1996? His May 1996 Plumpers and his June 1996 Juggs do not tell a lie. He’d never bought them before, but for some reason in the months he was trying to impregnate Debbie he gets a few to his name….
A question for anyone – did Michael Jackson ever say that he dyed his son’s hair blond? I’ve never seen any such statement. I grew up with a family of light-skinned black children. The youngest son was born with dark hair, which later grew in white blond and absolutely straight. Over the years, his hair became darker and as an adult, he had the same dark haired, dark-eyed appearance as Prince Jackson.
It’s common for Scandinavians to be white blond as children and black haired as adults. Australian Aboriginal children and some Papua New Guinea children are also have light blond hair in childhood, even though their skins are very dark, approaching black.
Is there any proof that Michael ever dyed his son’s hair?
All I heard was that MacCaulay Culkin said that he’d seen Michael dye Prince’s hair blonde. Also in some of Prince’s kid pics, you can see his darker roots very obviously growing out. But so what? Where I live, parents routinely color their young children’s hair. I was not used to seeing this and thought it was strange too (and unhealthy), but it is done quite often here and none of the locals think anything about it. Michael wasn’t the ONLY parent who has done this. So why is everyone making a big deal out of it? MJ did what he WANTED to do for WHATEVER the reason he CHOSE to do it and Prince is HIS own son so he had the rights.
All I heard was that MacCaulay Culkin said that he’d seen Michael dye Prince’s hair blonde.
when did Macauley say that?
because Michael Jackson is a black man. That’s why it’s a big deal. Why would a black man want his son’s hair to be blond?
He’s not the only parent who has done this but how many black men have you seen who dye their kid’s hair blond?
First of all, MANY Black people dye their hair blonde, girl! ESPECIALLY the females. They sport blonde hair using dyes or wigs or weaves all the time. And I’ve seen lotsa black dudes also with a blonde streak or a full head of blonde hair because they think it looks cool, or they want attention, or they are just being radical that way.
As far as MJ, his son does not readily LOOK black, so he could afford to dye his son’s hair blonde BECAUSE IT MATCHED HIS SKIN COLOR and did not look out of place on him. I’m sure Michael, like many people of ANY race, just LIKED the way blonde hair looks and since his son could wear it WELL, he let him have it! So what’s the problem? There IS none.
“All I heard was that MacCaulay Culkin said that he’d seen Michael dye Prince’s hair blonde.”
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^^^I never heard of this, where did he state this?
If you look at little blond children walking down the street, especially in the summer, they often have roots that are growing in darker than the rest of their hair. This is because their hair is gradually becoming darker, and the sun has bleached their older hair. At MJ’s memorial, you can see that the very front of Prince’s hair was still blondish, even thought the rest was brown. Now all of his hair is dark brown.
If MJ was so enamored of blond hair, why didn’t he dye Paris’ hair? She has the light eyes to go with it.
That’s a good question about Paris, but like I stated before, “I” think he wanted to have Prince more resemble his BFF, MacCauley. When I look at some of Prince’s photos, his hair looks almost PLATINUM blonde so I do believe it was dyed even lighter than its natural shade of blonde and that Mike might have done that for WHATEVER the reason HE decided to do it — and for some OTHER reason, he decided NOT to mess with Paris’ lovely locks. At some point he stopped dying Prince’s hair too. Maybe he just “got over” that phase of his fascination with blondeness for his kids. Prince was FIRST, so lots of ORDINARY parents will overindulge and do novel things to their first kid that with subsequent children they don’t even bother to repeat. You know, “been there, done that.” The first kid gets experimented on, I guess. At any rate, when will people realize they simply CANNOT get 100% into the mind of the Grandmaster Michael?! He did WHATEVER struck his fancy — like most kings!
Did Michael Jackson Dye His Son’s Hair? EVERYBODY who wonders, please go to YouTube and type this question in. MJJ and PMJJ are both bad — really bad — and they have “good hair!” LOL. This is an excellent video by a Jaimeee982. The proof is in the pudding, people!
Aaarrrggghhhh! I wish I could see that vid! It’s been BLOCKED in my country by Sony! Can someone upload the vid somewhere else or maybe send it to me pretty pls?
nenabuena – I’ve seen the video. You haven’t missed anything.
As far as I’m concerned, unless it can be verified by his own words that Michael dyed his son’s hair, it didn’t happen.
Nena, you MISSED it! Because a PICTURE is worth a THOUSAND words, girlfriend.
And if Simba, or anybody big, bad, and BOLD enough (not to mention IGNORANT & RUDE enough) to ask MJ to VERIFY if he dyed Prince’s hair, I WISH Mike would have told them to step off because it sho’ nuff ain’t none of their bidness. OK?!!!!
BELINDA – LOL, Oprah asked MJ to verify whether or not he was a virgin on live TV! I venture to say that wasn’t any of her damn ‘bidness’ either – besides being ludicrous – but she did it. Countless others have opined that MJ asked some random white dudes for their sperm. Diane Sawyer asked MJ and LMP if they had sex. Asking about hair color is no biggie compared to that. It’s too bad that MJ was too polite to tell all those bitches to step off.
I should add that I would never have asked MJ whether or not he dyed his son’s hair. But I would believe it if he had volunteered the information. As far as I know, he never did, so that’s why I don’t believe it.
ill not you leave it in peace now. Michael is the father of the children. It is clear from clear.
I never doubted Michael’s paternity. I’ve been fed up with all the rumors going around people claiming he couldn’t have kids and all those other dumb rumors. Kudos to you for your hard work. You did an amazing job. I feel sorry for Michael and his children. People need to bud out and stop questioning whether or not he is the father, its none of there business. Poor Michael went through a lot in his life time and still even in death people won’t leave him be, and its everything people say about him now even the haters its just pathetic and really disrespectful. I wish the best to his kids, and hope for a bright and happy future to them. Great job again.
You all are on it and making me LOL. I can’t believe that i am repsonding to this, but the more I look at Prince I, I see Mike’s original nose. Please believe I did not accept the children as his biological offspring and I did not want them to be. I and a few ladies that I speak with were disappointed with his choice. We were dissappointed that he did not choose one of us, at least publically. I mean what the hell is wrong with having an intelligent, sophisticated, kind, good-spirited woman from urban America on your arm and still remain successful??? I empathize with his fame and not knowing who to trust, but damn!
I don’t think that he slept with Ms. Rowe, it was artifical insem. I know that it’s no ones business but everything in his life at one point lead us to believe that he liked everything old Hollywood style, if you know what I mean.
“I know that it’s no ones business but everything in his life at one point lead us to believe that he liked everything old Hollywood style, if you know what I mean.”
I don’t have any idea what you mean. Please explain.
lol I think they think Debbie wasn’t glamorous or sexy enough for Mike to have sex with her.
the same reasons people always give for Mike not having sex with Debbie…
“Old Hollywood” refers to white American cinema. I don’t mean it disrespctfully, but it does mean white Hollywood pre 1970 or 80’s. I think Ina mentioned the statues at neverland being little white statues. The Bashir documentary showed mostly white pics on his piano. There is a thin line between Michael’s created persona and the real Mike. I don’t know but I enjoy reading this blog.
But let me ask this as I did on another blog: if His children were undeniably African American, would they have received as much attention and concern as they have/are receiving? Thanks
Old Hollywood style?
Well, obviously you haven’t seen his porn collection. According to that MJ liked chubby girl too.
Yup, his first copy of Plumpers was May 1996 when Prince was conceived. I love it when people tell themselves that’s just a coincidence.
if His children were undeniably African American, would they have received as much attention and concern as they have/are receiving?
Dear MS. Appeal, you have said a MOUTHFUL, honey. The answer to that is, NO I DON’T! From Barbara Walters and others gushing on and on and so SURPRISED at how articulate, well-mannered, intelligent, well-raised, beautiful, and normal they are, on down to your average trailer-park person, the kids captured WHITE America’s attention and concern because they were perceived FIRST as being WHITE…then rich & famous. We know what’s up.
There was a time when I also believed they were not conceived with MJ’s sperm, and when I tried to figure out why Michael would do that, THIS BIASED REACTION was the REASON that I thought he MIGHT have done it — because he wanted his kids never to be treated as inferior to ANYONE. Who does?!
But now that we all know that the fabulous PPB are his flesh and blood and DNA, we see that MJ just wanted CHILDREN OF HIS OWN…period. They didn’t have to be conceived with a perceived sexy, glamorous beauty queen, and they did not have to be pure lily-white. He just wanted them to be HIS.
This also shows how LOVING and COLOR-BLIND he actually was — not like Elvis and his people who were obviously prejudiced. Their bad!
He was IN LOVE with Lisa Marie and so NATURALLY wanted them conceived from LOVE like normal parents do. When short-sighted Lisa did not comply, Debbie Rowe volunteered to have them from HER love. SO either way, the children were from LOVE.
This also proves that The KOP did not have such low self-esteem and self-hatred that he would deny his racial makeup and his own identity. HE KNEW HE WAS GOOD ENOUGH — GREAT ENOUGH, in fact, to pass himself on selflessly to another generation. He didn’t put HIMSELF down, but OTHERS evilly did that!
Belinda, I simply said what I had been thinking. I never put Mike down. I have great love for him, enough to praise and critique. I’m just trying to understand and reconcile why many celebs (black)end up white washed. I mean, I know why and how but it’s just not a good look. That’s my personal opinion. I hope his kids do well as others. I appreciate the dialogue. Thanks
“if His children were undeniably African American, would they have received as much attention and concern as they have/are receiving?”
No. Remember back to the days of the OJ Simpson trial? The media and the public carried on about his young daughter Sydney, because she was young and cute and looked white with a tan and blond hair. I even heard her referred to as Arnelle Simpson’s stepsister, instead of half-sister. Now that she’s grown up, and looking a lot blacker and not so cute, there doesn’t seem to be much interest or concern about her.
“I’m just trying to understand and reconcile why many celebs (black)end up white washed. I mean, I know why and how but it’s just not a good look.”
Robert De Niro’s children are half black, Johnny Carson’s only grandchild is half black. Prince Albert of Monaco has a half black son. These are natural children. Think of all the money that’s going to be inherited by the adopted black children of Steven Spielberg, Beau Bridges, Sandra Bullock, Brangelina, Michelle Pfeiffer, Hugh Jackman, Tom Cruise, Joely Fisher, Madonna, etc. It works both ways.
to Simba
eventhough it’s very sad, it’s very very true. who gave or gives a shit about the two precios but adopted kids of nicole kidman and tom cruise…and who gives a shit about lil suri? the whole white world. and you gave a lot more exaples about this issue. I am fighting over that for such a long time. I just think there is something not natural about PPBs looks, no matter why…I think he didn’t want to have black children….for some reason. Michael has had some reasons for his insomnia, maybe this one made him feel quilty till death…who knows? the KOP is myth, isn’t he? My opinion…but fact is that those kids are caucasian.
I just think there is something not natural about PPBs looks,
but fact is that those kids are caucasian.
LOL hopeless.
These kids are bi-racial. I served them myself on a flight from LAX-MCO (Orlando). They are light, but not pale. I SAW THEM WITH MY OWN EYES. And there’s nothing wrong with being pale. And Prince Michael do have what looks like vililago on his hand. I SAW THIS WITH MY OWN EYES. White patches on is hand. I was shocked when I saw them in person too. MJ wanted his own children….HIS OWN CHILDREN. You don’t have to believe me. But I have to say after seeing/serving these beautiful kids, I was convinced that MJ was telling truth about these kids are his. I WISH HIS CHILDREN CLOSURE/LOVE/PEACE/SUCCESS.
Simba,
it’s like this, the celebs you named above did not experience a dramatic physical makeover. Michael’s illnesses changed him physically to a great degree. And he did not speak out until yrs later. So btwn 86-92 ppl formed their own opinions about Mike and much of the public assumed he was “purposely fixing” himself to be more white. I mean we must b real, despite the love and adulation, He experienced a hell of a metamorphisis. Then all 3 of his children come out “looking white.” The natural assumption for anyone to think, in the beginning, is that PPB were unrelated to Mike. The vitiligo, lupus, cosmetic surgery, his public relationships happened so quickly…it was a lot to take in…just unbelieveable to the 9-5 working girl.
De Niro, Bullock, Brangelina did not have that experience.
Peace
I think you misunderstood the point of my post. I was pointing out that numerous white celebrities had black children, and that these children will inherit their parents’ fortunes. (A previous poster seemed to bemoan the fact that black celebrity prestige and wealth were going to whiter and whiter offspring.)
BTW it never occurred to me that MJ’s children were not his biologically. Maybe it’s because our next door neighbor had vitiligo, so I understood MJ’s skin condition. And I grew up with ‘black’ neighbors and friends who looked similar to the Jackson children, right down to Prince’s baby blond hair. Anyone looking at my grade school pictures would think that I attended an integrated school. But all of the students were black, called themselves black, and were treated as black. (In later years, some of my classmates decided to pass for white. They were successful, even though other black people knew what was up.)
sorry i dont agree with this statement because i believe mj was in a different class than oj simpson so therefore his children will always get a lot of attention if they all turned black as coal tommorrow. michael jackson was loved all over the world . was oj simpson? me no think so.
” I am fighting over that for such a long time.”
Why? Think whatever you want, but it shouldn’t keep up at night. It’s none of your business, and none of your concern. Michael Jr., Paris, and Prince are not losing sleep over your hangups about their skin color. Why should you?
Oh I got it….thank you very much for your undeniable response….I just hope you finally got the point, eventhough I don’t think so, you don’t seem very educated….but anyway…keep on wasting yout time on “Michael Jackson’s Kids are His”…as your naive following is big enough to praise your stupidity! Very pathetic…sadly the others won’t get the point…so pathetic! Have a nice life…
You keep bidding adieu & YET you are still here… when are you leaving? LOL!
LOL! The thing about these blogs are that everyone is entitled to their own opinion and anyone with a computer can blog. The good, the bad and the crazy. If you choose to censor and delete what people have to say that is fine. But you never do, because it increases the popularity of your site.
Word of advice, Rock if you choose to go head to head with some of these posters you have to be a little bit more coherent (not just repeat what they have to say) it makes you sound crazy and reflects badly on your site and on MJ fans. Choose your battles wisely.
Why did you remove your own post, the one I was responding to? I hope I did not offend you but seriously Ina is not worth it.
I have to say this at the risk of being attacked–I love MJ and his kids and I believe they are his. But there are 2 photos above that look photoshopped. Both are of Prince Michael I– the one where he is holding his mask (1st picture with maroon scarf or sweater) and one where he is holding a drink cup. Those hands are of an older person (obviously Michaels hands) if you look at other pics of his Prince’s hands they are much fuller, as they should be for a 11-12 yr old child. please look very carefully–I wish people would not do this. With Love
Michael doesn’t have any markings on his hands, they’re an entirely different colour and his hands are slightly bigger, but Prince has big hands too.
If they’re shopped where are the originals?
ok maybe Prince really has vitiligo but I will be honest I don´t see any resemblance with Michael, neither Blanket is that similar (IMO) Really.
That photo comparisons are forced, in some of them Michael is just in the same position.
Girl, just to let you know Anais that responded here is in fact a troll pretending to be the REAL Anais who is my friend. Just letting you know bec I wouldn’t want you to think the Real Anais is the troll that just posted here.
LOL what’s with the crazies around MJ forums lately?
Maybe you should remove this page that is dedicated to his kids. Your initial intentions were quite honorable but this page has been derailed by trolls. It pains me to read all this bizarre stuff people post about his children.
I know you quite rightly remove the crazier posts but I think it is unfair to them. They are still only CHILDREN and didn’t ask for all this. When MJ was alive he fiercely protected them from all this nonsense.
If you sincerely and genuinely care about Michael Jackson the person, the father, you should try to protect his children too and let the kids remain an off limits topic. They may read this some day because this is one of the few very PRO-MICHAEL sites.
Peace.
I am really surprised Prince has vitiligo like Michael. I feel so sad but I can only hope his skin won’t be utterly destroyed and have to suffer the same fate as his father.
An interesting thing happened on my train ride home one late afternoon. I couldn’t believe what I was looking at. I saw a chinese man with his hands folded in his lap except he had some white splotches on his fingers, and also some near his wrists. At first it didn’t click with me but then I realized — he had vitiligo. It shocked me seeing a real gllimpse of vilitigo on an asian person.
Well. I dunno about genetics but I have a cousin that’s half white and he just looks caucasian. His father is jewish, and his mother (my aunt) is chinese. I’m not kidding when I say my cousin looks completely jewish. The first time I saw him I was like, wow. if i didn’t see him here now with BOTH his parents I would have thought he was full blooded caucasian. All I can say that it’s not always the gene from whichever parent of his or her that he/she is going to turn out looking like. i believe that holds true with today’s mixed people.
Well done! 🙂
those are michael jackson offsprings u looking right at photos they don’t look all the way white. people believe what they wanna believe i really don’t c the big deal white people are just to hung up on color i get sick of hearing about this all the time those kids names come up the media white america started this whole thing about those not being his b/c they have a natural hate toward michael jackson even in death everything is a problem when it comes to michael jackson now that his gone now they won’t 2 attack his kids but lead nowhere fighting about this to people who refuse to believe those are michael’s kids but at end of the day it doesn’t matter what we think they r living with they natural family and they r happy so u cant hurt them by saying these cruel things so grow up people
im sorry ya’ll but i speak for all the african american people and we know how black children comes out and they sure don’t come out like those three. Prince and paris are white and blanket is hispanic, not mj’s children! end of discussion
That’s one of the inane comments ever posted here, congrats.
Also, “hispanic” isn’t a race – it’s a mixture of different races. So what you’re really saying is that Blanket is a mixture of races, well done!
First off, I love your blog ! I found it on a message board where someone was talking about Michael’s porn collection, LOL, and I’m happy I did.
anyways, that collage with the biracial people is really interesting. with genetics, you really don’t know what you’ll get & they’re definitely proof of that. I was just watching some show on VH1 with Kid Rock and his son. His son definitely doesn’t fit the description of what a biracial child supposedly looks like but after doing a couple google searches i found out he’s biracial too, thought that was kinda cool.
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Love the post. As someone else said previously, amazing research!
look, thoes are mj kids, our family have this issue with our skin color. most of our famliy skin is black, but we came out white just like mj kids. p.s. Blanket is not all the hispanic his mother is also black. but mix.
I’m posting this becaus I am sure that those listening to the Howard Stern radio show on June 30, 2011 misinterpreted what was said between Howard and Harvey Levin, the creator of TMZ. Howard made the statement that a women approached Harvey with mind blowing dossier’s on Michael Jackson. Harvey said that after speaking to this women for 5 minutes he realized that the documents were stolen and threw her out. He wouldn’t reveal what were in these documents but he did say that they had to do with the circumstances on how he ended up having his kids.
He said it was all very detailed information but wouldn’t elaborate on it because he wanted nothing to do with any legal issues. Now, knowing what we know about media and also about factual information about Michael Jackson, I immediately felt the sting of what had been said. Harvey nor Howard did or said anything wrong but the unknown shifts into the “I knew those weren’t his kids area. My interpretation of what Harvey had to say was not the birth and parents of the kids but the legality of how the children became his, soley. I’m not sure if anyone else heard this interview but there is a daily uphill battle to try to disspell truth from rumor/lies.
Hmm, that’s interesting. Thanks for sharing. I hate all the ways people intentionally leave things open to speculation and innuendo.
Well done Michael Jackson! You LOVE to stir up controversy and curiosity and having those 3 children assured that there would FOREVER be controversy even with your progeny! You were sumthin’ else, MJ. Always “startin’ something,” always EXTRA ordinary, and there will NEVER be another like you………..YOU ARE THE MASTER! Kudos and Big Ups always!!!
THANK YOU SO MUCH 4 THIS INFO! Even though i had no doubts but I can know rub it in the haterz faces! ❤ L.O.V.E
Hey, this is a great post! I wish I could have found this sooner!
I wanted to suggest a photo of a young MJ and Blanket mashed together. They look 100% identical! I think it would be a great addition to your post.
The photo is included in this post, down at the bottom at bullet point #12. You’ll know it when you see it!
What a remarkable collection! I never thought Michael’s parentage would have to be publicly proved as the idea of having to do it is totally disgusting – but since there seems to be a necessity for some, the job you’ve done is superb.
By the way people with a such a cocktail of genes in their blood tend to be more gifted and strong than those with “purer” genes. The closer the genes are the more chance of criss-crossing with your distant relatives is – which eventually leads to degeneration.
Michael’s mixed genes partially explained why he was the genius he was. I hope his genes will make his children strong enough to handle this totally disgraceful fuss over their paternity.
People who constantly raise this subject should be reminded again and again that it is none of their business and that all this talk is a terrible insult and damage to the children. These people are nothing but grave child abusers and should be labeled as such!
I always thought Paris Jackson had blue eyes, but I see that her eye colour seems to change depending on light and surroundings. Sometimes it looks blue and other times it looks green.
I think they’re green. She’s commented on her formspring and I think she said green/grey/yellow. Heh.
Joe’s mother is half white, she “passed” and was listed as white in the census forms. And Joe’s father must have recent mixing with white in order to have Joe’s eye colouring to pass it on to him too.
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once again we are on the subject of the paternity of mj’s kids, who cares really, you ppl just want another mj clone. well it aint gonna happen, they only made one courtesy of joe and katherine jackson. so get over it and leave mj’s kids alone personally if he lied who cares, they are his anyways and are being well taken care of. just leave it be and by the way the troll who said lionel rictchies kid is partially black so it has to be his is wrong, she is adopted so there maybe that person should do their homework and also katherine jackson scruse is partially asian so you dont know the heritage. just leave it alone
Lionel Ritchie’s daughter Sophia Richie is not adopted.
i was talking about nicole, the other one has a white mother, irregardless, some kids do not take on their african american heritage so get over it, there will be no michael jackson clones
There is no way anybody can convince me that Arnold Klein is the father of any of those children. You have to look at the features separately. Prince Jackson has dark brown, almost black eyes, thick lips, a thick nose and dark brown hair. Debbie Rowe has blue eyes, thin lips, a thin, hooked nose and bright blonde hair. Arnold Klein has light brown eyes, thin lips, a thin, hooked nose and lighter brown hair.
Prince and Blanket both have dark-brown almost black eyes, and who else did? Michael Jackson? Paris has greenish-blue eyes. Who else does? Joe Jackson. Joe has light eyes, Debbie has light eyes, bam, there you have it, the light eye gene on both sides, not to mention, there were probably plenty of Jackson ancestors with light eyes, given that there are Caucasian ancestors on both Joe and Katherine’s sides.
Anybody who argues Blanket is anybody else’s son needs Spec Savers. That boy is all Michael. The media lightens pictures of the kids quite often. Also the camera flash brightens pictures. The children are quite naturally tanned. No way did pasty Klein and pasty Rowe produce such dark-skinned children.
My best friend mother was really good friends with Michael Jackson and know who the mother is.Blakent mom is half black, east indina and a little mexican, She was their to see all the births and she got tons of pictures of blanket mom,MJ and the kids. I ask why can’t you show them, because she don’t wont the world to see who she and michael would like to keep it that way. All that I can tell you is that MJ is the father of all his three( no sperm cells, LoL).
How did she meet and get to know Michael?
Frank Cascio says Blanket’s mother was an Italian/Spanish surrogate.
She meet michael back in the late 70’s and early 80’s. She use to be one of michael jackson former assistant, she would travel with the king of pop. They remain good friends, until his death in 2009. She has personal pictures of michael, his kids, blakent mom, and the family. Yes, the blakent mother is Italian, but she is also, half black, east indina and a little Spanish.Her father is black/east indina, while her mother is Italian/spanish. About her being surrogate, well that’s a different story.
No offense, but do you have anything to back any of what you say?
Her name is Shari L. Dub (She goes by Shari Sutcliffe, 54, now living in Newbury Park, CA becomes studio manager for Cherokee Recording Studios in Los Angeles, succeeding Con Merten. She joins from Guber- Peters Co.
She was one of his assistent and she is always in the background. She is now the president of Cherokee Audio Visual Inc. She was michael assistant until she left in 1991.
Okay, I know who you’re talking about, if you’re telling the truth, that’s pretty crazy you know that info.
Can I send you an email to ask you some questions I think only Shari would know?
ok…
You know, faces can be blurred in pictures. I kid, I kid.
I know people give Michael crap for giving conflicting stories about Blanket’s birth and mother, but I don’t blame him. It really is nobody’s business, though the lot of us ARE curious since we are talking paternity. I have no doubt in my mind who the father is though, and that’s Michael Jackson. 🙂
Another example of a biracial actor in Hollywood who looks similar to Prince and Paris and Blanket. Jesse Williams from Grey’s Anatomy. He has almost the same skin tone as Paris, AND the same color eyes. His mother was Swedish and his father was African American.
THANKS i too have always had people question my own ethnicity..not black enough …thank you…well put together!;)
Yeah, me too. Even when I tell people I’m black, they question ME!! And like I just saw Rashida Jones being interviewed for her new movie and she looks NOTHING like Quincy Jones and she looks ALL WHITE! So why did people not HARRASS Peggy Lipton and QJ about whether she was his biologically? Michael has been increasingly BULLIED by the media and online even in death and now his children are also included in this CYBER bullying and I believe there is not nearly ENOUGH outrage over these facts!
I always thought Janet and LaToya looked mixed and you could see that their hair was real. Even if PPB had “caucasian” skin tone so what? mariah carey could pass herself off as white, just like shakira could be passed off as white even though she is arab. But wow you did a great job well done. Randy was right Blanket is a carbon copy of MJ.
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Fantastic job. This is what needs to get out there on stupid sites like gawker, etc where they constantly bash the King!